And then there's those kids who really need guidance and don't have it. My brother was like that. There's no way he'd even catch a bus on his own, but if you took him a few times then he'd be fine. He basically had to be hand-held through the whole finding a job process when he left school (in year 11) or he never could have don't it on his own. You couldn't find a more loyal, hard worker though. A lot of kids/young people don't have that kind of support, there's all types out there. I hate this tough luck attitude of the Abbott Gvt, it's counterproductive.