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    I know. Two kids in daycare will cost me about $50k from gross salary that includes the rebate for each child and of course don't get CCB.

    Luckily I earn more than that which for me still makes it worthwhile (and I taking into account higher salary as I progress of course) but that basically makes it impossible for loads of people to use daycare.

    Don't get me started on the availability issue!!!

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    We've reached the medicare safety net 3 years in a row...

    The receptionist was a bit shocked when DH went for a specialist appt the other day and saw how little he had to pay because of this and it was only early May at that stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I agree with the sentiments of most people in this thread and despise TA and the Libs.

    But... As always when Scandanavian countries are mentioned as utopia-like, you need to remember that SAHP's are a tiny majority over there (as are non-parents who don't work). Obviously there is some non-voluntary unemployment but I'm talking about people who choose to stay home for 3,5,10 years or whatever to stay home with their kids. It just doesn't happen - they stay in the workforce and continue to pay their income taxes which keeps the system working. I don't think many people on this forum would actually like that reality.

    I have seen stats but can't be bothered to dig them out so you'll have to trust me ������ - this is also anecdotally from people who live there.

    Men taking parental leave over there is also way more common which is great. Culturally we have a long way to go before we can start emulating socialist countries.
    Yes I think we probably do, because people like Abbott and his party of cronies and in the media control are too concerned with productivity and profit rather than the continuation of the human species.

    I copied this from the European Union (European platform for investing in children) web page:

    "Swedish parents are among the EU’s most successful in balancing work and family responsibilities. Female and maternal employment rates are among the highest in the EU, and child poverty is the lowest. The country’s family policy is aimed at supporting the dual-earner family model and ensuring the same rights and obligations regarding family and work for both women and men. Generous spending on family benefits, flexible leave and working hours for parents with young children and affordable, high-quality childcare are the main factors for success. The aim of the Swedish financial family policy is to contribute to improved conditions for good living standards for all families with children, increased freedom of choice and empowerment of parents."

    The last sentence is the key to moving forward, yet Abbott and his party choose to go in the opposite direction! It's just so frustrating.

    It also mentions that the family policy offers generous spending on family benefits, flexible leave and working hours.... If we had access to this in Australia I dare say most mothers would return to work and we would progress in the direction much sooner. It's our government and similar attitudes in our population that push us further backwards and deem your last sentence - that we have a long way to go - correct.

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    Oh heck no!!

    That at is one evil little tyrant I would prefer Abbott over. Wow, lucky he's fictional!

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    He's a character from game of thrones.

    Obviously it's a joke and I wouldn't actually want him over Abbott but given peoples current reactions to Abbott I thought it was a little funny.

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    Game of Thrones reference.

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    Re childcare - I'm due in October and I've had to go on the wait lists to get part time care in July next year. The centres have told me it's unlikely I will get a place as the wait lists at them is 1.5-2 years long and to ensure that I have other arrangements in place if I need to go back, but it's not always that easy. SA has also changed primary school intakes, which is forcing many kids to stay in cc an extra 6 months, meaning less places are available every year as well.

    I was also gobsmacked at the cost - over $100 a day. How could anyone afford one child in full time care let alone 2? It's ludicrous, even with the rebate full time care with 1 isn't an option for us.

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    Yes - and I'd have to put 3 in childcare and one in OOSH! No maternity pay and possibly ftb a being scaled back next year sometime. If I was to get a job next year it would be purely to get my foot back in the door for when we lose more entitlements. I may earn $10k gross for one day's work across a year, bring home most of it but then pay out $150 of the $192 a week in childcare, leaving my pay for the week at $42...and that's if I continue to pay the same subsidised amount for childcare as we do now.

    Meantime, I have a friend who's husband has a lower paycheck but doesn't have to pay tax on a large portion of it so they will not lose as many benefits. Good for them...


 

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