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    Not everyone lives in the city and has ready access to all the fancy public transport options that all our fuel excise dollars are also going to contribute to yet the roads around here are currently $200 million under funded. Feel free to climb down from your ivory tower and see how the rest of the country lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili81 View Post
    its ok - yes there are different schools of thought out there
    given the level of pollution Australia has yes I believe something need to be done for this country to start moving away from the fuel.
    You mean like a carbon tax and investment in green solutions...oh wait this government doesn't seem to think we have a pollution problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili81 View Post
    We are far from paying the real price - considering the impact on the environment.

    "A fuel tax stimulates a more efficient use of oil: this is good for the planet and for almost everyone else, except oil exporters maybe. It encourages carmakers to develop and sell low-carbon technologies. It helps boost the share of public transport, walking and cycling, including the emerging use of e-bikes, and even electric cars."
    You have a valid point but unfortunately low carbon technologies will probably never be a reality for farmers or the majority of heavy equipment users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerilee View Post
    The fees vary a bit it seems.

    I am doing psychology and mine are $755 per unit. I am in a Commonwealth Supported place, so don't know if that makes a difference.
    Nursing, midwifery, teaching and possibly science/maths (don't know if they've changed that) are considered national priorities and are heavily subsidized. My midwifery subjects were about $500 each and that was 2010-2012z

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankyoldcow View Post
    @BigRedV I'm not picking on you in particular, but I have seen a number of people say they aren't expecting the fuel levy to affect them too much. I am very concerned that it will have far reaching affects on the price of pretty much everything in Australia, particularly food as we have such a reliance on road transportation and will affect people so much more than they realise.
    Abso-frikkin-lutely!
    Everything we manufacture, purchase, consume, etc is dependent on fuel. I lived in the UK during the fuel crisis of late 2000. There was not a drop of fuel to be had at any fuel station in the country. The realisation on how dependent on fuel we are was frightening.
    Teachers can't get to school, but that's ok because neither can most of the students. No emergency or essential services. House on fire? Bad luck kiddo. Fire engines need fuel, as do police and ambulance vehicles. Don't think about public transport either because bus and train drivers can't get to work. Panic buying of groceries, empty shelves and no trucks to delivery more food. Doctors and nurses can't get to work, hospitals can't function. The list is endless. Every purchase we make has the cost of fuel factored into its price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mum2b87 View Post
    You mean like a carbon tax and investment in green solutions...oh wait this government doesn't seem to think we have a pollution problem.
    Exactly right. Also in favor of all this.
    And it proves my point - the coalition budget makes no sense whatsoever.

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    Not to mention it won't even last that much longer, we really need to be thinking about a plan b!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lili81 View Post
    its ok - yes there are different schools of thought out there
    given the level of pollution Australia has yes I believe something need to be done for this country to start moving away from the fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannawannabe View Post
    Nursing, midwifery, teaching and possibly science/maths (don't know if they've changed that) are considered national priorities and are heavily subsidized. My midwifery subjects were about $500 each and that was 2010-2012z
    I don't think it's really about that. Different degrees are on different tiers. As I said, I pay almost 800 per module for teaching. I think it's more dependent on future earnings, thus why the humanities/teaching isn't fabulous money and the modules are cheaper. There is big money down the track for medicine and law, so those modules are dearer.

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    Oh I love to hear the public transport debate. Public transport is great if it is reliable, affordable and you have no commitments.

    I live in the nation's capital. We have a bus service which, quite frankly, isn't very good. If I took the bus service to do the school run and go to work, we would have to leave home by 6:45, walk 15 minutes to the bus stop, then catch three buses, another 15 minute walk to school, another 2 buses to finally get into work by 10am. And then the reverse in the afternoon. I wouldn't have job for very long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ana Gram View Post
    Oh I love to hear the public transport debate. Public transport is great if it is reliable, affordable and you have no commitments.

    I live in the nation's capital. We have a bus service which, quite frankly, isn't very good. If I took the bus service to do the school run and go to work, we would have to leave home by 6:45, walk 15 minutes to the bus stop, then catch three buses, another 15 minute walk to school, another 2 buses to finally get into work by 10am. And then the reverse in the afternoon. I wouldn't have job for very long.
    I know what you mean about Canberra. I lived there for many years. The transport was terrible. I lived in North Canberra and worked in inner south. Could not get a bus to work before 9am. It's ridiculous.

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