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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Look at countries like Sweden, Holland. They have very high tax, excellent welfare programs, completely free health and education. They have the best educated people in the world. They apparently have one of the highest happiness ratings. They are doing well economically. Then you have these fools, doing exactly the opposite, taking money from the most disadvantaged and giving it to the richest. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out where this country is heading....
    This is exactly right. We're emulating America and their health and education systems which are fundamentally broken - their literacy, quality of life and mortality rates are far far worse than those of several European countries (those you mention as well as Finland, Iceland). It makes NO SENSE.

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    Call me unpatriotic but I lack empathy for Australians, yes it's a tough budget but we have SO many opportunities here, many just choose not to follow. There are literally millions of people in the world that would love to be here even under the proposed changes.
    Wake up and realise that despite the proposed changes we still have so much more than the majority of the world. Yes some other countries do it better but MANY do it a lot worse and don't offer anything. Put it in a real world perspective, or are you all being too selfish and bitter to realise what's going on outside your own bubble.
    Stones in glass houses ...

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    I haven't read the entire budget report yet but from what I've seen here and on FB there is very little joy in it for me.
    I will admit that keeping fuel rebates in farming pleases me, as does extra funding into animal and plant bio security.
    The cuts to ftb b won't impact us if we both keep working but the medical charge will.
    It's long term I worry about on a personal basis, things like education will really impact on us.
    And much as most of what I've read so far doesn't have a big impact on my family I know lots of people that it will hurt. I just hope that this isn't the beginning of the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaJones View Post
    Those of us that pulled their fingers out...


    You are still forgetting that the people you are talking about had choices. The choice to party or work or study.

    I am stuck in a crappy job.. And not cause I chose to party...
    I didn't get a choice.




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    I'm not saying you are in a lower income world now because you bludged at school. I don't know you. Just saying that in many cases (yours?) there isn't a connection between effort and income but in many cases there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadaca View Post
    Yeah, I went to Uni and did 2 degrees in 4 years, I work my **** off in my job and get 80k. My job involves helping others and making the world a better place. I don't think I work 100k less than a person on 180k. There's more luck to have a successful business/position than there is working harder than everyone else.
    I agree. But the chances of you getting an $80,000 job if you didn't do further education is slim.

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    Australia is heading the way of UK & USA. Why I dont know as neither country has gotten thru the GFC very well.

    If we want to emulate another country it needs to be as other posters have pointed out Sweden, Denmark, Finland.

    Seriously its not rocket science. Google those countries and their health, tax, welfare, school systems. Trust me if you arent ashamed of this new budget you will be after you read up on those countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I agree. But the chances of you getting an $80,000 job if you didn't do further education is slim.
    The only way I will be getting an 80k job is by turning tricks. Which is looking like a viable job option. Pretty sure im not even joking anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by maternidade View Post
    Call me unpatriotic but I lack empathy for Australians, yes it's a tough budget but we have SO many opportunities here, many just choose not to follow. There are literally millions of people in the world that would love to be here even under the proposed changes.
    Wake up and realise that despite the proposed changes we still have so much more than the majority of the world. Yes some other countries do it better but MANY do it a lot worse and don't offer anything. Put it in a real world perspective, or are you all being too selfish and bitter to realise what's going on outside your own bubble.
    Stones in glass houses ...
    yes, but we are not war-torn Middle East are we...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mum2b87 View Post
    If you only have 2k left more than likely no effect as you will have paid it off before the changes come into effect. Consider making voluntary payments and paying it off this fin year to save on more indexation though
    Thank you. Yes the bulk of it has been paid by voluntarily payments we put all our tax return on it as well as additional weekly payments he finished uni 4 years ago but i dont think we would could get the rest paid by june 30 unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ourbradybunch View Post
    Australia is heading the way of UK & USA. Why I dont know as neither country has gotten thru the GFC very well.

    If we want to emulate another country it needs to be as other posters have pointed out Sweden, Denmark, Finland.

    Seriously its not rocket science. Google those countries and their health, tax, welfare, school systems. Trust me if you arent ashamed of this new budget you will be after you read up on those countries

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    One of the reasons we moved here from the uk was that we could actually afford to live here. We could afford to have children here. Apparently that isn't going to be the case for much longer... :-/

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