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    Again knowing nothing about Uni does someone know what say a teaching degree costs each student to do now ? And what is it expected to go up to? Or I suppose it will depend on the demand and which Uni has the best reputation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    Again knowing nothing about Uni does someone know what say a teaching degree costs each student to do now ? And what is it expected to go up to? Or I suppose it will depend on the demand and which Uni has the best reputation?
    When I did it it was approx $500 per subject, 8 subjects per year and a four year degree so approx cost was $16,000. This was a few years ago though and I think that the Universities will now with the new budget be able to set their own fees so they will all be different. I might be wrong though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    Again knowing nothing about Uni does someone know what say a teaching degree costs each student to do now ? And what is it expected to go up to? Or I suppose it will depend on the demand and which Uni has the best reputation?



    I work at a uni and its $6,044 per year (8 courses/subjects). It takes 4 years full time to complete - so overall $24,176.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    People will have less money, so they will spend less, which will hurt business, which will hurt employment.

    This whole govt are a bunch of buffoons. They don't seem to understand the basics of economics. Paying off debt by having homeless, starving uneducated people just isn't going to work and defies all of the complex economic mechanisms at work.

    I truly fear for this country. And I don't say that flippantly. I mean I *really* fear for our futures.
    I do too and this budget is going to ruin the country. But I'd be interested to hear what's their spin on it? How are they creating jobs?

    If I hear one more person talking about budget emergency, I will scream. All the facts are here for everyone to see but instead people choose to believe the Murdoch press propaganda.

    I have never been so angry over political measures before. This will turn Australia into a shameful country where the rich will prosper and the poor will starve and will be blamed for not working hard enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deku View Post
    Can I add my budget woes/government complaints?
    Cuts to science funding!!
    DP and I are both doing postgrad research degrees (in solar energy and atmospheric science respectively. Areas the government is obviously super enthusiastic about!) and rely entirely on government scholarships and funding, so cuts to CSIRO and ANSTO and other scientific organisations, and adding fees to research degrees is pretty bad.
    Doing research is essentially a full time job, we're technically students but we publish papers and produce meaningful output. Grad students are the ones in the labs testing thousands of chemicals for medicinal properties, or doing the experiments to develop new technologies.
    Most of us get paid less than minimum wage, but we've happily put up with being poor for 7-8 years because we believe that what we do is pretty damn important. It sucks that so many people (especially the ones in power) devalue science
    But hey, at least we'll still be eligible for FTB since it'll be a long time before we earn over $100k!
    This is me, you have written exactly what I was going to write! Seeing as postgrads are effectively the engines of science, cutting funding to them and introducing student fees to postgrad students is going to kill off science. I personally would have probably not done a phd if I had to pay more fees than what I have already paid for my education so far. Its hard enough trying to get funding without all these massive funding cuts. Leaves me wondering what kind of jobs are even going to be available once I finish. What a joke.

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    Here's a good link from Choice explaining the changes in a great, easy to read way....

    http://www.choice.com.au/reviews-and...udget_may_2014

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    And with all our manufacturing and blue collar jobs disappearing, just what are all the young adults that can't afford higher education meant to do????

    This just looks worse and worse the more I think about it. How depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maternidade View Post
    Every government in recent times have tried and failed in welfare reforms. People won't change unless they are forced to.
    My cousin last night ( who's under 25) put up a post last night about being fck with new changes. I asked why and their response was "well IF I loose my job I won't have income".
    They're in a very stable job that the only way they'll loose it is if they broke the law or quit.
    That's not hard to not quit or not break the law.

    It's this attitude that needs to change,
    You seem to lack basic understanding of the types of people that receive welfare and what their reasons are.

    I'm over 30, so that aspect won't affect me. But I struggle to comprehend how you can't see why he would be worried. He's in a stable job NOW. What if the employer goes broke? He has to wait 6 months to get Newstart. What is going to happen to him?

    You appear bogged down in labelling anyone that receives welfare as dole bludging cheats that don't want to better themselves. What happens to the family where Dad works hard at a factory, Mum is home with special needs kids that are over 6? they lose FTB B. The cost to the family to have carers who are trained in an ID or severe Austism would cost them more than what she would earn. Could you imagine a child with Down Syndrome in a normal public school after school care program?

    The attitude that needs to change is yours, sorry. You are so wrapped up in bitterness and worrying about yourself you cannot see past that to have empathy. Upon reading, we'll both have finished our degrees by 2017. We only get $50 of FTB B. I don't have special needs kids and I'm over 30. We can afford 7 bucks for a blood test. Yet I can still see past that and recognise this is going to kill so many families and single people.

    Heaven forbid you lost your husband, got permanently injured at work. You be singing a different tune then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OurLittleBlessing View Post
    And with all our manufacturing and blue collar jobs disappearing, just what are all the young adults that can't afford higher education meant to do????

    This just looks worse and worse the more I think about it. How depressing.
    Yep, pretty much every family that isn't wealthy is going to be hit hard. The knock on affect to business and employment is going to be catastrophic. Seriously, we are going to be the laughing stock of the world.

    Look at countries like Sweden, Holland. They have very high tax, excellent welfare programs, completely free health and education. They have the best educated people in the world. They apparently have one of the highest happiness ratings. They are doing well economically. Then you have these fools, doing exactly the opposite, taking money from the most disadvantaged and giving it to the richest. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out where this country is heading....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadaca View Post
    So well said! It ****es me of when people earning in the top 2% of earners think they got there because they worked harder than the rest of us! Hahaha. It's so self indulgent. There is a lot if luck in being in a high earning positions. There is not necessarily any extra work or sacrifice being done. If it were me I'd tax them 5% extra and spread the money around to the hard workers who weren't as fortunate or chose not to sell their sole (as above quote demonstrates) to get the big bucks.
    Amen.

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