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    The problem with giving ccr/ccb to grandparents or other carers without the red tape is a lot of people would be fraudulent. The red tape makes care more trustworthy/professional. (Obviously some still aren't but you get my point).

    Not to say that there shouldn't be some benefits for grandparents etc to help with care. There are currently some payments available.

    I think more businesses should have options for daycares.... eg if there is a big shopping centre complex, this staff who work in the stores could access childcare heavily subsidised or part of their work package in this complex. Same for schools or big industry. (Think google and it's onsite daycare). The government should make this a viable option for businesses.

    Also agree with making it a more attractive career path with better incentives etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose&Aurelia View Post
    Offer grandparents and other relatives a care allowance or some type of CCR for looking after kids.

    Ie my mother works FT but would love to have my kids during the week. Now if she could somehow be registered without ALL that crappy red tape and I'd be able to pay her and get CCB/CCR it would be great.

    Another thing is 24hr daycare. I work shifts and have to continually knock back work if it isn't in 7am-5pm M-F.

    Lastly - make nanny work CCR linked.


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    I don't know all the details but you can claim ccr or ccb if you have family members caring for your kids. The trick is that you pay them just enough that it doesn't affect their pension and you cla your 50% back from centrelink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    Probably going to shout down for this one.

    This is a general not aimed at any member.

    Stop devaluing stay at home mums. They are often treated like scum of the earth who aren't contributing to society in any way. I believe more mums would stay home if it they were treated differently and valued for what they do. Therefore opening more place up to people who want to work.

    The grandparent option is dying out with the stay at home mum. Let face it most modern grandma's work full time themselves.

    Sorry I am not helpful.

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    I find it really sad that you've felt devalued. And honestly, surprised. Perhaps it's just in my circles but often SAHM's are the hero's and that us working mums are putting ourselves first and not our children. I was even asked by one person 'why did you even have a child if you're just going to let daycare raise him?'. I felt like scum because I was going to work.

    I have to work. I think it's better that my son is in daycare than not have a roof over our heads. I do enjoy my job as well but my heart is constantly with my son. I love my days home with him and wish I could do it more.

    We are just mums doing our best, we all work hard and all make sacrifices.

    Anyway, back on topic! I love Tamtams idea. I work for the department of education, maybe they should have department daycares for their employees! In saying that, I didn't find it difficult to find a childcare place in my area. I think the girls at my centre are amazing, and absolutely deserve to be paid accordingly.

    Maybe the government needs to cancel the CCR and CCB, develop a funding model for child care centres with these funds and maybe a bit more. Parents then make an affordable contribution. Make them run similar to the school funding system. Hopefully then the workers will be paid appropriately and making childcare affordable for all who want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    Probably going to shout down for this one.

    This is a general not aimed at any member.

    Stop devaluing stay at home mums. They are often treated like scum of the earth who aren't contributing to society in any way. I believe more mums would stay home if it they were treated differently and valued for what they do. Therefore opening more place up to people who want to work.

    The grandparent option is dying out with the stay at home mum. Let face it most modern grandma's work full time themselves.

    Sorry I am not helpful.

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    Off topic and irrelevant, if child care was accessible to all then there wouldn't be us v them.

    I didn't say so working mothers can have a place. I never even mentioned working mothers or sahm at all.

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    I have always felt that child care costs should be tax deductible to the employer. Or at least no FTB involved.

    If we encourage employers to provide on site child care
    - more mothers would be able to go back to work as their kids would be on site for easy and more regular access
    - better for employers as they would have access to a wide range of highly skilled employees who currently do not work
    - child care workers would be employed by other businesses who often have much better benefits etc.

    If we had places like shopping centres and major office blocks who had an onsite child care - would you use it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maternidade View Post
    Off topic and irrelevant, if child care was accessible to all then there wouldn't be us v them.

    I didn't say so working mothers can have a place. I never even mentioned working mothers or sahm at all.
    Did you miss the part of her post where she said it wasnt aimed at any one member and was a general statement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peanutmonkey View Post
    Did you miss the part of her post where she said it wasnt aimed at any one member and was a general statement?

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    Why post then? It was clearly written to stir

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    Quote Originally Posted by BbBbBh View Post
    Allow family daycarers to receive CCB/R for their own children or grandchildren. If the retirement age is now 70 then why couldn't a few grandparents band together to run a family daycare where they look after neighbourhood kids and get paid for it.
    The retirement age isn't set to get to 70 until another 20 years time when the people in this thread will probably be our children.

    There's nothing to stop grandparents starting their own family day care. Or are you just talking about over 70year olds?

    Quote Originally Posted by maternidade View Post
    Off topic and irrelevant, if child care was accessible to all then there wouldn't be us v them.

    I didn't say so working mothers can have a place. I never even mentioned working mothers or sahm at all.
    Anewme's post didn't mention distinction between places for working women or places for SAHM. Her post suggested that if SAHM were more valued we'd have more and generally SAHM's tend to use daycare less, thus, freeing up more places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maternidade View Post
    Why post then? It was clearly written to stir
    How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Anewme is not a stirer and she makes a valid point, if you cared to read her entire post.

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    I personally feel that having accessible child care in our places of work should become much more standard. I know of plenty of 'business parks' in the inner or outer Sydney region that do not have on site childcare yet there's hundreds or even thousands of employees on site!

    I think it would ease mums in particular minds if our kids were right there near our work space plus much easier with drop-offs etc in the morning.

    Lots of buildings in the cbd also don't have on site childcare - only certain buildings.

    Hospitals, other buildings, shopping centres for retail workers etc. more on site childcare for workers rather than a little house somewhere in suburbia would work better for so many mums/dads.

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