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    Kw123 the porno thing he said to me the day previous when he was finding out how far along I was and to the whole office today.

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    Kw123 the porno thing he said to me the day previous when he was finding out how far along I was and to the whole office today.
    And yes my brother is a hr manager kw123 and has fired employees for behaviour like that

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    And I would never quit over something like that, like I've said I've worked there for years and the amount of disgusting comments they say to me I let slide but the comment yesterday and today was nothing short of humiliating and disgusting.
    The amount of staff that have quit my woke because of bullying etc just goes to show I am not making a big deal about this.

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    Make a note of all the comments, including ones he makes to others. You may need it down the track.

    It sounds like you have had real work issues for a long time - I think you posted a few weeks ago about possibly going on sick leave due to stress?

    Are you planning on going back after leave? Understand you hanging on for the parental leave but it sounds like a toxic environment to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    You're right I am. I'm also pretty good at it. And you might not agree, but my comments are accurate.

    I am entirely sure of what constitutes discrimination. And definitely of what would stand up as a successful discrimination claim (and sexual harassment for that matter). This would not.

    It sounds like what he said was "she conceived on the X line" in front of the office and that was all. The porno thing was said to her only.

    I'm not condoning what he said and did. It's awful and she should make a complaint. I certainly would.
    I think the comment about 'conceiving on the Epping train line' was meant to be, and was understood by KelBel's co workers to be, a reference to the porno made on that train line. My understanding is that the 'joke' about the Epping train line was well known. Correct me if I'm wrong on that KelBel?
    @kw123 I'm sure you are very good at it (HR/IR). So am I.

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    I'm in Melbourne and I never heard about it.

    I'm not sure why you're trying to argue with me. If you have experience with this sort of thing then you would know that it would not hold up as a stand alone incident. Which is why I've recommended she keep a log from now on.

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    I'm trying to argue with you because I disagree with you. Quite simple really.
    The implication is that she conceived her baby through making a pornographic film in a public place.

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    I appreciate the comments guys.
    And yes that was me commenting not that long ago about work stress lol.
    I won't be returning there after I have the baby.
    I will be documenting everything and make a formal complaint a month before I go on maternity leave so if they make me redundant it won't be a big deal as I'll be going soon.
    My brother thinks what was said is pretty serious and he said I should speak to one of my nice bosses tomorrow and tell him and also tell him that my other boss is not to mention my pregnancy again regardless of what it is in relation too.
    To make a stupid apparent funny story about how I conceived is none of anyones business.

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    I'm not in HR, but I'm completely in shock that such a comment would be made. If it were me, I would send an email to the manager in question (and copy in any other managers as well as the female manager who was present) and say something like 'when you said...in front of [these people] I felt utterly distressed and humiliated. I realise this comment was intended to be humorous, but what you implied was not funny in the slightest. To speculate on my date of conception, whether in public or in private, is also extremely inappropriate.'

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    any comment about how or when the Op conceived her child is unprofessional, inappropriate and constitutes sexual harassment according to the human rights commission.
    This taken directly from their website:
    Sexual harassment may include:
    • suggestive comments or jokes
    • intrusive questions or statements about your private life
    • (Obviously many more, I just kept the relevant ones)
    I would consider what the boss said to be an intrusive comment about the Op's private life. Sure it may be at the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to sexual harassment but it's still there. The sex discrimination act makes sexual harassment unlawful in the workplace.

    Op you're not over reacting. At the very least, if the boss intended this to be a joke that fell flat (because it wasn't funny) he needs to be notified that this behaviour is unacceptable. That won't happen if you don't say anything.

    Also i'm concerned that the impact is you didn't feel comfortable staying at work. Sex discrimination is a barrier to you participating fully in your workplace and places your PPL at risk if you decide to leave. Not cool.


 

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