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    What a moron! And childish to boot. Hang in there, don't let him get to you. If you feel something must be said, your within your rights to report it as sexual harrassment. Honestly though, if it was me I would ignore it as the stress (re: job security) would put me & my body under would not be worth it. Karma will bite him in the bum.

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    Snooze: I appreciate your different point if view.
    But I do not think I am overreacting.
    I didn't make the connection with the train incident, he made the connection yesterday when he counted backwards to see when we ****ed, then he said we must of been the couple that made the porno in the train. But today is when he felt the need to tell the whole office that.
    I don't even catch the train I drive my car in.
    I don't have a hr department it is a small company.

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    I know job security is a huge thing and I know deep down I will just brush it under the cover for another 3 months.

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    Ahh ok sorry I thought you wrote that he just said the first bit about the Epping line. Hmm yes quite a bit rude.

    It's up to you hun. Nobody else can tell you how you should feel. What do you want to do about it? Do you enjoy your job otherwise?

    Maybe just think about it, take a few days off even. It sounds still very raw for you. I just think that if I had quit every time a manager had said something rude to me I'd have changed jobs every month! Sometimes you gotta let things go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snooze View Post
    I just think that if I had quit every time a manager had said something rude to me I'd have changed jobs every month! Sometimes you gotta let things go.
    I agree. Sometimes people have terrible senses of humour and you have to learn to let things slide. If you told him what he said offended you and was inappropriate, and then he says something similar again, that's when I would start thinking about what actions to take next. But if it was sort of a once off then try not to let it bother you too much. Some people are crass and inappropriate and you have to laugh at them. Gosh some of the stories I could tell you about what different colleagues have said to me at work Xmas parties or sales conferences would send any feminist screaming from the rafters! I just don't let things upset me. Only you can chose how you react to something. But certainly if he continues to make you feel uncomfortable then take further action by speaking to another manager. He might need a talking to in order to open his eyes!

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    Can you speak to your manager or one of the other bosses and explain how upset & embarrassed you are by what he said and that you were so upset you contacted (sorry i forgot who you said you contacted) and are considering making a formal complaint.

    I understand its a small work place but by just saying you are considering making a complaint might force him to pull his head in and apologise and make sure not to over step the line again.

    If it were me id want a proper apology

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    Did he say the second bit about the porno as well to the whole office, it was that to you in a separate conversation?

    What he said was gross and out of line but it couldn't be classed as discrimination.

    Even if you have no HR dept I would make a formal complaint to your manager about it. Speak to them and then follow it up in writing and ask for a response.

    He will likely only get a rap on the knuckles but at least you didn't do nothing.

    I certainly wouldn't quit over it, but that's just me. Different things are upsetting to different people which is why you should never be anything but professional at work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    Did he say the second bit about the porno as well to the whole office, it was that to you in a separate conversation?

    What he said was gross and out of line but it couldn't be classed as discrimination.

    Even if you have no HR dept I would make a formal complaint to your manager about it. Speak to them and then follow it up in writing and ask for a response.

    He will likely only get a rap on the knuckles but at least you didn't do nothing.

    I certainly wouldn't quit over it, but that's just me. Different things are upsetting to different people which is why you should never be anything but professional at work!
    @kw123 I think you are in HR/IR based on some of your other posts (?) but your understanding of what constitutes discrimination is flawed IMO. To unlawfully discriminate is to treat someone less favourably in the basis if an attribute such as pregnancy. Offensive and humiliating comments have been found to constitute less favourable treatment. In the alternative the OP's treatment could be potentially classed as sexual harassment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeGirl View Post
    @<a href="http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/member.php?u=87248" target="_blank">kw123</a> I think you are in HR/IR based on some of your other posts (?) but your understanding of what constitutes discrimination is flawed IMO. To unlawfully discriminate is to treat someone less favourably in the basis if an attribute such as pregnancy. Offensive and humiliating comments have been found to constitute less favourable treatment. In the alternative the OP's treatment could be potentially classed as sexual harassment.
    You're right I am. I'm also pretty good at it. And you might not agree, but my comments are accurate.

    I am entirely sure of what constitutes discrimination. And definitely of what would stand up as a successful discrimination claim (and sexual harassment for that matter). This would not.

    It sounds like what he said was "she conceived on the X line" in front of the office and that was all. The porno thing was said to her only.

    I'm not condoning what he said and did. It's awful and she should make a complaint. I certainly would.

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    Thanks snooze
    Yea I have worked here for years and the amount of **** they say to me all the time or the stress it's just a **** if a job.
    But yea I think I just need to think of the money.
    I spoke to my brother who is a hr manager and he said he has fired employees for less than that but he said it is hard as it wasn't an employee that said that but a boss. He told me to speak to my other boss tomorrow and make it clear that behaviour is unacceptable and he is not to make one more derogatory remark about my pregnancy or it will be taken further.
    My brother said seen as there is no hr department at my work they prob have no idea that what has been is said is wrong.


 

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