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    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessLeader View Post
    I'm not getting into the SOS debate, but yes I did find some other approaches far more idiot proof. Eg, I followed the safe sleep space approach with DD (which worked quite well) which says- allow them to try to self settle. Any little whimpers or grizzles, keep listening. Three loud 'waa's' and you go in immediately and offer comfort until calm. Idiot proof. No mixed messages about what constitutes 'protesting' and saying in ones breath 'it's not CC' then in the next 'be prepared for some crying'
    It actually tells you exactly what to listen for.
    And why I love the happiest baby on the block. No room for confusion at all. 5 steps to settling an unsettled newborn. Brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessLeader View Post
    I'm not getting into the SOS debate, but yes I did find some other approaches far more idiot proof. Eg, I followed the safe sleep space approach with DD (which worked quite well) which says- allow them to try to self settle. Any little whimpers or grizzles, keep listening. r.
    I'm confused. This is pretty much what SOS says. It describes how to identify a protest cry. It's not the books fault if people don't read this properly or still can't tell what a protest cry is .
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I'm confused. This is pretty much what SOS says. It describes how to identify a protest cry. It's not the books fault if people don't read this properly or still can't tell what a protest cry is .
    Maybe she shouldn't use the term 'protest cry' if she means grizzling because to me grizzling isn't crying and 'protest cry' insinuates crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I stand by my comment disagreeing with the statement that all cuddles are a NEED. Pfftttt!!!
    That's truly sad.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose&Aurelia View Post
    That's truly sad.



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    If you think all cuddles are a need and not a want then that is naive denial.

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    I'm at the point where no book will help me. I'm back off to sleep school!!!! My DS no matter how hard I try or the things I do is still a terrible sleeper in his 13 weeks on earth he has slept through fully twice only!! It use to be pain causing it now it's just habit and I can't seem to break it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiterallyNoOne View Post
    I'm at the point where no book will help me. I'm back off to sleep school!!!! My DS no matter how hard I try or the things I do is still a terrible sleeper in his 13 weeks on earth he has slept through fully twice only!! It use to be pain causing it now it's just habit and I can't seem to break it.

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    13 weeks is still so young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiterallyNoOne View Post
    I'm at the point where no book will help me. I'm back off to sleep school!!!! My DS no matter how hard I try or the things I do is still a terrible sleeper in his 13 weeks on earth he has slept through fully twice only!! It use to be pain causing it now it's just habit and I can't seem to break it.

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    That sounds really normal to me.

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    This is what upset me about books like SOS. They give people unrealistic expectations that their baby will sleep through if they just follow this routine. And yes I do know the book actually says babies might still wake but the majority of people who advocate for the book say that their baby slept through from a young age, which in most babies is just an unrealistic expectation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peanutmonkey View Post
    This is what upset me about books like SOS. They give people unrealistic expectations that their baby will sleep through if they just follow this routine. And yes I do know the book actually says babies might still wake but the majority of people who advocate for the book say that their baby slept through from a young age, which in most babies is just an unrealistic expectation.

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    I agree 100%. This is my biggest issue too. Expectations are unrealistic and you're left feeling defeated when it won't work or like you're doing something wrong or your baby is somehow not like all the other babies.

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