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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsharvey View Post
    Totally agree. Stop calling other people's family/friends idiots as well then :-)

    I could do but I can't be bothered finding an alternative word. Someone who let's their kid cry in bed for 35 minutes while others eat Xmas lunch and claim they are following SOS is an idiot. Also someone who let's their two day old cry, refusing to feed them because it's not time is an idiot as well. I am sick of idiots giving SOS a bad name. It would be nice to discuss idiots who follow other parenting sleep philosophies for once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I could do but I can't be bothered finding an alternative word. Someone who let's their kid cry in bed for 35 minutes while others eat Xmas lunch and claim they are following SOS is an idiot. Also someone who let's their two day old cry, refusing to feed them because it's not time is an idiot as well. I am sick of idiots giving SOS a bad name. It would be nice to discuss idiots who follow other parenting sleep philosophies for once.
    on second thought would 'stubby short of a 6 pack' be more acceptable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    on second thought would 'stubby short of a 6 pack' be more acceptable?
    Possibly? So much more labour intensive though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I could do but I can't be bothered finding an alternative word. Someone who let's their kid cry in bed for 35 minutes while others eat Xmas lunch and claim they are following SOS is an idiot. Also someone who let's their two day old cry, refusing to feed them because it's not time is an idiot as well. I am sick of idiots giving SOS a bad name. It would be nice to discuss idiots who follow other parenting sleep philosophies for once.
    May I ask why you have introduced sos at all? Were your babies bad sleepers before 8 weeks? What about the routine do you like?

    I have already said previously that I did do a night routine from birth, with bed time varying for age of baby. That is what made sense to me as a parent. I didn't need a book to tell me to do that? That is what I meant when I said that tizz didn't invent routines.

    And again, so many people have said they tweak sos. Why? Because a lot of her advice is stupid.

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    Oh, and I just want to add the 7 o'clock bus. It's not true about the sleep cycles. My kids do go to bed at this time, though.

    I'm here in Ireland ATM (which is where Tizz was born ) and have visited many family/friends with kids and babies. Obviously a general question is how is the baby sleeping... My baby usually sleeps from 6/6:30 - 7/7:30 everyday and has a 2/3 hour nap. Babies and children tend to go to bed much later in Ireland, like 8/9pm and wake up late as well (8/9am)

    It's been driving my husband and I nuts because people aren't ready to leave the house for the day until 11/12. My kids need serious entertaining/activity by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    And again, so many people have said they tweak sos. Why? Because a lot of her advice is stupid.


    No, because it doesn't suit / work for everyone, nor do most baby books.

    Same reason I alter jeans when I buy them, I'm short, but the colour and shape and waist suit and fit me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie Pallie View Post
    No, because it doesn't suit / work for everyone, nor do most baby books.

    Same reason I alter jeans when I buy them, I'm short, but the colour and shape and waist suit and fit me.
    Exactly, so saying that people didn't read it properly or misunderstood is wrong. Some people just don't agree with it, or it would seem most people don't, since they tweak it to suit themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Exactly, so saying that people didn't read it properly or misunderstood is wrong. Some people just don't agree with it, or it would seem most people don't, since they tweak it to suit themselves.

    Both can be the case. I only can speak for myself, but many negative comments about it are because people don't read it properly (by that I mean as an entire book, they read parts they don't agree with and discount it, without looking at it overall) or with pre-conceived ideas, or not at all.

    Everyone who used or likes the book, understand if parents think it doesn't fit their parenting style, and that's fine, but unfortunately, those people in turn make users of the book feel like bad parents with comments like - being cruel, letting their kids miss out on social events, not a good thing to make a cup of tea whilst giving your child a handy and healthy skill of learning to sleep by themselves, etc, etc.

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    Well I do think making a cup if tea while a 2 week old baby is crying is cruel and bad parenting.

    And to be clear, I have read the whole book.

    Let's not forget that people do follow this book to the T, lol!

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    I also find it interesting that people say they tweaked it, but then if someone else says that sos didn't work for their baby, then they are told they didn't follow it properly. Bit of a contradiction!

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