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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennaisme View Post
    So it could be people don't see the way women in society are treated as lesser, because when one hears some demands of these matriarch-society feminists, it really sounds like they just want more. Not equality, they want to be above men, treated better than, paid better than the males in society.
    I think this is a strawman.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleetwood View Post

    One good example I can think of is an example given by a poster in this forum some time ago. She is a professional and was on a weekend conference I think, with some male colleagues, and the first thing she was asked was 'so where are the kids this weekend?'. Being the only female in the group, she was the only one asked this. So what does this tell us about ingrained attitudes of people still, in such a modern country as Australia? That people still see women's default responsibility as being a mother. For men who are fathers, it is not assumed he is neglecting, or leaving his kids behind, whether he is married or single, it's not questioned. Ok so it's not evil to ask such a question of course, but it's an example of how ingrained sexism exists regardless of 'equality' laws.

    Will address the pay thing later....
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    That's not sexist though. Again, personal responsibility, all it would take is more women returning to work full time instead of the father and this would change.

    I would likely ask the same thing. It doesn't make me a misogynist or sexist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie Pallie View Post
    That's not sexist though. Again, personal responsibility, all it would take is more women returning to work full time instead of the father and this would change.
    But why are more women not returning to work and fathers staying home? bc it's seen as 'women's work'. The argument has done a full circle and we are back to where we were before, where society clears plays a role rather than it just being purely choice.

    And I don't think more women need to return to work to ensure equality. They need to have their roles valued no matter what they choose.
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    what about both parents going back to full time work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie Pallie View Post
    That's not sexist though. Again, personal responsibility, all it would take is more women returning to work full time instead of the father and this would change.

    I would likely ask the same thing. It doesn't make me a misogynist or sexist.
    Sure. Thing is, my DH can't breastfeed. So I took mat leave and he didn't. Should I have formula fed for equality? Or should our roles as parents be valued more by society- so no parent is penalised for raising a child?

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    Parenting is not the only issue affecting equality.
    Another PP gave an example of two entry level positions in a law firm where the male candidate immediately receives a higher rate of pay that the female. How can anyone rationalise this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretched View Post
    In the other thread you made a comment that I will paraphrase along the lines of "if there were men's business networking groups there would be an outcry".

    Have you never observed a job, opportunity, promotion or payrise awarded to a male who belongs to the 'boys club'? Have you never been not told about the after-work drinks in a male dominated field purely because you are a woman?
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    So promotion of a man in the boys club, absolutely! I have also seen it in my team where a female colleague who was well known in our team as being lazy and hopeless in her role was part of the womens professional development network who got a promotion without an interview to a position 2 levels above us. The boss in her new area was in the WPDN as was my colleague. I am not, I didn't even get a look in. It happens everywhere and not just to benefit men.

    Mens drinks after work, yep, seen that too. Also do you ever go out with just the girls at work and don't invite the boys? What's the difference?

    Ever gone out on a girls night without your partner?
    Or vice versa? Boys night without you? Nothing wrong with that either.

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    I think one of the biggest areas of inequality for Australian women is domestic violence and what is being (not) done about it. One woman is killed every week by someone she has a domestic relationship with. Where is the public outcry, the tough new laws? Where is the media each and every time this happens? The system fails women on many levels there and yet- nothing is changing. THIS is a big reason why we still need feminism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    I think one of the biggest areas of inequality for Australian women is domestic violence and what is being (not) done about it. One woman is killed every week by someone she has a domestic relationship with. Where is the public outcry, the tough new laws? Where is the media each and every time this happens? The system fails women on many levels there and yet- nothing is changing.
    I was just coming in to post exactly the same thing.

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    just read the thread this one was derived from and was surprised to see that Supre is called by some the "sl.t shop" or the "wh0re shop".

    This is a comment made by women.

    In another thread about a TV show, other posters were calling female characters they dislike to "go suck a d1ck" or something along those lines.

    We need to start cleaning our own door step. Small step towards less violence directed to women.
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