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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    If the woman doesn't have the balls to do something then that's not sexism/being treated differently. That's just her being a woos.
    balls and courage have nothing to do with each other.
    that's ordinary sexism

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesssalee View Post
    That is not what I said at all. All I was questioning is why would the 6'10 woman be 'more likely' to be stronger and able to kick the a$$ of a 6'10 man? I would argue they would be pretty similarly matched, given they have similar fitness levels.

    I'm for equality, not belittling either, and to me, you statement read as anti-man.

    Don't even get me started on how sexist it is to joke about a woman beating up a man, but if we made a joke about a woman being assulted by a man there would be outrage. True feminism is about equality, not considering women above men, or we're right back where we started
    Women vs men of the same height. Women mostly carry more muscle AND fat stores around vs a man who carries mostly lean mass and muscles around due to biological issues. Women tend too be stronger pound for pound then men. We just don't use iur stregnth fir violence due to lowered testisterone levels. This is a strong myth that is passes around even by women. We should all let a big strong man look after us. Pffft. Looks like we could actually do that ourselves uf we chose to.

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    This was an excellent thread written by a former hubber that gives an overview of Feminism.

    http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/f...light=feminism

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    This is a picture taken by the first woman to enter in a marathon in 1967. At the time women were barred from competing in marathons and she was able to enter because she used her initials on the application form.

    It took 5 more years before Boston Athletic Association allowed women to participate (1972). By 2011, nearly 43 percent of Boston Marathon entrants were female. It took 12 more years before there was a women's marathon in the Olympic Games (1984).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennaisme View Post
    I often wonder if equal rights feminists are horribly embaressed by women-ruling-the-earth, lets have a matriarchal society, **** men, they all suck! Type feminists, or if they feel these types do no favours for the feminist movement itself?
    From talking to people, these feminists are the ones who yell the loudest and have the biggest voice. They try and oppress men, almost to punish them for stuff they hadn't done, simply because they have a penis, which could be why a lot of people refuse to be associated with the idea of feminism, because tbh these people tarnish the whole idea horrendously.
    So it could be people don't see the way women in society are treated as lesser, because when one hears some demands of these matriarch-society feminists, it really sounds like they just want more. Not equality, they want to be above men, treated better than, paid better than the males in society. I guess people figure that if we weren't equals, that would be their first issue but it never seems to be, alqays they want more.
    This^

    I don't disagree with the concept of feminism, I disagree with the women who give it a bad name by men bashing and making it look like a bunch of hysterical woman burning bras and bad mouthing men, perhaps that's what op means? I know I definitely find that distasteful and shameful compared to how they could be going about it, whose going to take them seriously ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    This was an excellent thread written by a former hubber that gives an overview of Feminism.

    http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/f...light=feminism

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    This is a picture taken by the first woman to enter in a marathon in 1967. At the time women were barred from competing in marathons and she was able to enter because she used her initials on the application form.

    It took 5 more years before Boston Athletic Association allowed women to participate (1972). By 2011, nearly 43 percent of Boston Marathon entrants were female. It took 12 more years before there was a women's marathon in the Olympic Games (1984).

    Very powerful image that one.....


    That OP post from that other thread is very good. What stands out to me as being the most frustrating aspect of feminism (to me) is this:

    Quote Originally Posted by jaq View Post
    it is women who are the prime conveyors of social conditioning - by teaching their children - the saddest truth of feminism is that women are both the victims AND perpetrators of the patriarchy.
    I stopped reading this thread yesterday, was busy but also I was doing too much head-shaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PipersMummy View Post

    I don't disagree with the concept of feminism, I disagree with the women who give it a bad name by men bashing and making it look like a bunch of hysterical woman burning bras and bad mouthing men, perhaps that's what op means? I know I definitely find that distasteful and shameful compared to how they could be going about it, whose going to take them seriously ?
    [Totally not having a go at you by quoting...]

    I'm so tired of this concept of burning bras and bad mouthing men being thrown about. How often do we see that, really? Why is it still what people think of when the word 'feminist' is used? That bra-burning, hairy legged Germaine Greer femmo cliché is bad enough being perpetuated by men, but being perpetuated by women also leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. And isn't it interesting that our male-dominated media industry quotes women like Germaine Greer so gleefully?

    And this concept of women's behaviour being 'distasteful' and 'shameful' is exactly the opposite of the progressive society some here are claiming that we live in. You know - if women would just be more polite and demure we'd all get along much better. Even the word 'hysteria' was used to label women who displayed certain symptoms (including sexual desire for one) that we generally now recognise as PMS, and 'hysterical' women were sometimes forced into hysterectomies against their will. I mean, it's so important to know this stuff and think of the language that we use so loosely. Hysterical/b*tchy/bossy/p*ssy/c-bomb/slutty/ball breaker/p*ssy whipped...it's everywhere.

    Sometimes it takes extreme behaviour and people power to get the world to sit up and notice what you are trying to say, at the very least, and certainly to change society in any way. Look at the riots in Egypt, and Syria, and Ukraine? Governments overthrown because the people said 'enough'. Wouldn't it be awful for us to sit in our comfy homes in our first-world country and tut-tut at their lack of manners? What a way to ignore what these trailblazers have done for us. Isn't it sad that *women*, who make up over 50% of the population, had to resort to this type of 'unladylike' attention seeking behaviour? Should the young girl who was shot in the head by adults in Afghanistan for the crime of wanting to be educated and attend school (in the 21st century, by the way) have just accepted her lot and sat at home? What about the Saudi Princesses who are being kept in a virtual prison because they believe Saudi women should be allowed to drive? Shall we just let that go on on our global doorstep as well?

    This screaming, irrational, 'bra burning' woman is a diversion from what's really going on in the world, and what needs to still happen.

    I may be extra ranty due to lack of sleep...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PipersMummy View Post
    This^

    I don't disagree with the concept of feminism, I disagree with the women who give it a bad name by men bashing and making it look like a bunch of hysterical woman burning bras and bad mouthing men, perhaps that's what op means? I know I definitely find that distasteful and shameful compared to how they could be going about it, whose going to take them seriously ?
    My Mum is one of those types of feminists - she hates men and has been saying that since the day I was born. Strangely though, she has a partner of 18 years and was married for 15 years before that, not to mention dad who she was also married to at 19. She also has 2 sons who she loves dearly and very dear male friends. She loved my late pop very much, he was the hero of her childhood. She has also given speeches on feminism to hundreds of women from around the world (women's liberal forum and other) and trust me, she is taken very seriously when she talks because she is right on the money. I think you'll find it's not man-hating so much as hating the position women are put in at the hands of men across the world. There's a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PipersMummy View Post
    This^

    I don't disagree with the concept of feminism, I disagree with the women who give it a bad name by men bashing and making it look like a bunch of hysterical woman burning bras and bad mouthing men, perhaps that's what op means? I know I definitely find that distasteful and shameful compared to how they could be going about it, whose going to take them seriously ?

    I have never in my life come across a feminist like this. I believe it's a myth perpetuated by a stereotype which was created in fear by those who fear change. Like pps have said they're about as common as members of the westboro baptist church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post
    I have never in my life come across a feminist like this. I believe it's a myth perpetuated by a stereotype which was created in fear by those who fear change. Like pps have said they're about as common as members of the westboro baptist church.
    My mother is like it. Unfortunately.

    One of many reasons she is out of my life.

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    Lol. After reading the umpteenth "these people don't exist, I've never met one" post in this thread, I can't actually be bothered with it anymore.

    Be thankful you've never met one. Have a good day, ladies.

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