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    To a degree they are linked... they both look at the whole person, they both look for the cause. But yes the treatments they use are different. As pp has said, Naturopaths use supplements, vitamins etc. Homeopaths do use a diluted substance that focuses on like curing like. Not every type of complimentary medicine will suit/work for everyone, but you might be surprised how well some 'less popular' modalities work. Ring some up, ask questions or as a PP suggested already, go to a student clinic - cheap prices and can give you an idea of the types of treatment that work for you.

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    I saw a natropath in Perth and thought he was a complete waste of money and completely unprofessional. I ordered more bottles and ended up with someone elses (and them obviously with mine). When I questioned him I was told it was fine to wait a couple of days for my bottle but previously he told me it was vital that I didn't have a break. So okay for me to stop when it was his error? I am sure that some/most of them are good but this one left a nasty taste. It was very expensive and made no difference, plus I sometimes feel that when they specifically aim at infertility they know we will try almost anything before going down the IVF route. I delayed my IVF because of what I was told and it was pointless, I wish I had never wasted my time and money with this man. His emails to me were extremely rude and I have never had dealings with someone quite so unprofessional in my life

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    Same as you would with GP,s find one you like/trust and specialises in what you need and try get referrals or testimonials - my GP recommends mine to parents with kids who have allergies/ intolerances and my OBGYN also recommends her to his patients for pre natal care/ vitamins/ diet - the thing I like the most as pp said is that they try and find out why you have the problem then try fix it - not like some GP,s who just treat the symptoms not the cause - my girlfriend was the biggest sceptic but after months of her son getting ear infections, diarrhea and runny noses and sick of being given antibiotics at every visit she went to my naturopath who found out he had a lactose intolerance and now is a different child

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    I got some help from a naturopath- possibly could have seen a dietician for the same advice. He was on the right track with some complex health issues- I was on a waiting list to see a specialist and saw the naturopath in the meantime. However once I saw my specialist I had proper medical testing done and found I didn't need to be gluten free- I actually needed to be wheat, corn, rye, egg and dairy free. All the gluten free products I was eating were full of corn. My serious disease improved after this and we fell pregnant within two months.

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    Naturopathy is based upon pseudoscience; although some elements of it may be effecacious (e.g. certain herbs with known medical effects, promotion of exercise and healthy eating), the system as a whole is quackery.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturopathy

    "Naturopathy is based on vitalism, which posits that a special energy called vital energy or vital force guides bodily processes such as metabolism, reproduction, growth, and adaptation. Diagnosis and treatment focus on alternative therapies which naturopaths claim promote the body's natural ability to heal."

    I'm reminded of Huxley's observation that "élan vital is no better an explanation of life than is explaining the operation of a railway engine by its élan locomotif."

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    When I saw my naturo there was never any mention of vitalism, just medically proven herbs and vitamins... and wouldn't you know it, after 4.5 years of infertility I was pg first cycle. No way that is coincidence.

    I'm normally really skeptical of alternative medicine, but it's simply not true naturopathy is pseudoscience. It only becomes so when it's merged with homeopathy, iridology etc. There is a body of proven studies that back up that herbs and vitamins work. Particularly infertility herbs.

    I'm the one of the first to debunk pseudoscience. But there is no denying many of the herbs work, it's clinically proven. I don't deny there are quacks in this field. But don't get me started about how useless and lacking in knowledge my gyno is - a university trained specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    When I saw my naturo there was never any mention of vitalism, just medical proven herbs and vitamins... and wouldn't you know it, after 4.5 years of infertility I was pg first cycle. No way that is coincidence.
    Actually, that is the very definition of coincidence. There is simply no way to know whether you'd have become pregnant in that situation otherwise. Just the placebo effect from visiting the naturopath could have done it.

    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I'm normally really skeptical of alternative medicine, but it's simply not true naturopathy is pseudoscience. It only becomes so when it's merged with homeopathy, iridology etc. There is a body of proven studies that back up that herbs and vitamins work. Particularly infertility herbs.

    I'm the one of the first to debunk pseudoscience. But there is no denying many of the herbs work, it's clinically proven.
    Sure. No-one is disputing that. But consider an analogy ...

    Imagine you went to see a faith healer. He prayed, sought divine inspiration, and gave you some clinically-proven herbs to take.

    On the basis of that experience, would you say that faith healing worked?

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    I thought natropathy was to do with the health of the gut and how that affects the overall health of the person. I say that as someone who has never seen a natropath though. My understanding is that there is some level of empirical evidence to support some natropath practices but I couldn't tell you which ones.

    Homeopathy on the other hand would have to break the laws of physics and chemistry multiple times over to actually work as they claim.

    My suggestion would be to seek recommendations and ask if they also practice homeopathy. If they do then run a mile. If they don't then you might be on to something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncan_bayne View Post
    Actually, that is the very definition of coincidence. There is simply no way to know whether you'd have become pregnant in that situation otherwise. Just the placebo effect from visiting the naturopath could have done it.

    lol there is no way it was coincidence. Severe endometriosis doesn't just regress substantially in a month on it's own by the power of the mind!. This wasn't just a few months of not falling pg with no cause and just being impatient. I had something really wrong with me.

    I worked with a woman that had endo and tried for a baby for 13 years. She took all the drugs the gyno's gave her, had multiple ops, not one single pos pg test. 2 months on herbs such as vitex and she was pg. 12 cycles per year X 13 years = that's 156 cycles. 2 cycles on vitex and maca - that's a 1 in almost 80 chance. Not good odds for coincidence!

    Imagine you went to see a faith healer. He prayed, sought divine inspiration, and gave you some clinically-proven herbs to take.
    On the basis of that experience, would you say that faith healing worked?


    no I would say the herbs worked and the divine intervention was rubbish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    I thought natropathy was to do with the health of the gut and how that affects the overall health of the person. I say that as someone who has never seen a natropath though. My understanding is that there is some level of empirical evidence to support some natropath practices but I couldn't tell you which ones.
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