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    This is very off topic but what about transgenders? That's still a male/female entering the opposite sexes toilets. That's more accepted because that person is usually recognized as being the correct sex for the toilets they are entering. So a male could still be entering the toilets that you're using but you are none the wiser. I don't really see then why it should be unacceptable for a dad to bring his daughter into the female toilets. I don't think he would be pacing up and down the cubicles looking like a pedo scaring everyone who's walking in afterwards. I think most would wait at the cubicle door or at the entrance. If questioned it wouldn't be hard for him to explain he was waiting for his daughter. I think *most* women would be ok with that.

    In saying that though I would just want my dh and dd to be comfortable. They would have to make the decision between themselves if/when that situation occurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    I have no experience of hanging out in mens toilets, however, from the very frank discussions I've had over the years with exH and DF my understanding is that there are strict protocols that require men to not leave their bits out for a millisecond longer than absolutely required. The men are not exposing themselves, they are taking a pee. It's probably about the same level of exposure as breastfeeding in that you'd have to get up close to 'see' anything. It's not as though a man is sending in their pre-school daughter unaccompanied, he is with her, most likely holding her hand and guiding her quickly into a cubicle.

    Why would the mens toilets be any more stinky than the womens toilets?

    If my DD goes to a public toilet, depending on the circumstances she might not close the door which is fine by me. She's 3 and tiny and still mastering the art of not falling in the toilet whilst getting toilet paper. There's no way I would let her in the toilet by herself with a locked door (which you mostly have to lock otherwise they automatically open).
    Urinals stink. So badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I would never use a disabled toilet for my child if another child with a disability was waiting. But usually they are empty 99% of the time. In the case of a father with a young daughter using a disabled loo where it's empty and no one is waiting, I don't see the issue?
    The issue is that a hell of a lot of parents have the same view as you which means that these facilities are in use by people without disability for a large part of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kishimojin View Post
    The issue is that a hell of a lot of parents have the same view as you which means that these facilities are in use by people without disability for a large part of the day.
    What does it matter if there are no disabled people waiting to use it? I'm sorry but I don't feel that someone should let there child pee themselves just in case a disabled person needs to use the loo. In my experience, a child takes less than a minute to wee and get out. There are worse things in life to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kishimojin View Post
    The issue is that a hell of a lot of parents have the same view as you which means that these facilities are in use by people without disability for a large part of the day.

    We must live on different planets as every time I walk past a disabled toilet, be it in a shopping centre, hospital, park it's always empty. So clearly "people with the same view as me" aren't taking the toilets lol Truth be told, I think I've used these toilets twice in my life so hardly taking away the toilets of disabled people. People aren't talking about routinely using disabled toilets bc of sheer laziness while poor disabled people wait. We are talking about the odd occasion when a father has a daughter who is too young to go to the loo on her own so may use a vacant disabled toilet.

    This thread is funny. So many people getting angry over toilets

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoThisIsLove View Post
    So its better for the dad to take his daughter into a stinky mens toilet with men hanging their frank and beans out?

    Sure u can tell her not to look but theres no guarantee she wont see anything on the way in and she has to wash hands afterwards etc too.

    Having a little girl in a room with men exposing themselves is totally inappropriate imo.

    Probably a good idea for your daughters to learn to close the toilet door when in a public toilet regardless.

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    She's 5 and shuts the door. But when she was much younger she could lock herself in a toilet and not be able to get out again. So after half a dozen times with a panicked toddler she left the door open and tried to keep it shut with her foot.

    In all my years with kids I've never come across a man in a ladies toilet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie_eyes View Post
    Harsh.

    Anywho no, my daughter wont enter a mens public toilet, EVER. Dh will take her to the girls toilet as she is a girl and will be the one using the toilet.

    No way in heck will she hafto walk past strangers with d1cks using urinals.

    No brainer for me.
    @Zombie_eyes, I ask this in a very genuinely interested way, not in a nasty or confrontational way, but have you told your DH/discussed with your DH that he will be taking your DD into the women's toilet? If I told my DH he had to take our DD's into a women's toilet he would totally refuse. No way would he be comfortable going into a women's toilet.

    I don't recall that we've ever had a discussion about what happens when he takes our DDs out on his own. I must ask him tonight when he gets home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kishimojin View Post
    I don't care how often they are used. You are not disabled don't use it. There is simply no excuse. People without disability often see "no problem" with using facilities which are designed for people with accessibility issues, people for which there is no other option. You are able bodied, you have access to other facilities with numerous cubicles yet use the disabled toilet simply for convenience and to make life easier for yourself.
    Sometimes there aren't any other options for parents with prams. And sometimes the line up with kids at the normal toilets can be 10-15 minutes (eg at major events).

    If there's no one waiting to use the disabled toilet what's the big deal? What harm is done? Is it a principals thing? (.. Bit precious..) Or are you genuinely concerned that a disabled person might have to wait a couple of minutes on the off chance they need to go when someone else is using the toilet? (Also a bit precious?) In the event of that happening, is it really the end of the world of the disabled person has to wait a couple of minutes? (like the rest of us do quite often).

    Sorry I am struggling to see what the actual problem is here.
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    I agree about the use of the disabled toilet. Often they even have a change table in them.
    I also don't see the problem if no one is waiting. I also don't think it's a huge deal of someone had to wait a minute or two to use it.
    I have used a disabled toilet with my dd in the pram when there aren't other options.

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    This is totally what happens in men's toilets isn't it? Except with everything out waving in the breeze. And more men. Lots of men. Shuffling in unison.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YqJ1b57AkEM


 

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