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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    They're not standing in the middle of the room using their penises like a hose!!

    They have their backs to anyone who enters the toilets for goodness sake!

    If a child sees a penis in a male toilet it's because they've gone up and peered into the urinals.
    I'm still trying to work out what is actually traumatising. Is it the smell? The men with penises (not that they could see them anyway)? Or the urinal? Honest question I am completely at a loss? Or is it a more sinister belief that something bad will happen to a child in a men's toilet? While their father is in the cubicle with them?

    I'm actually concerned that we are raising a generation of girls who are being taught they have something to fear. Aren't we talking about a father taking his daughter into a toilet and staying with her?

    I'm just not sure what the actual thing we have to fear is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    They're not standing in the middle of the room using their penises like a hose!!

    They have their backs to anyone who enters the toilets for goodness sake!

    If a child sees a penis in a male toilet it's because they've gone up and peered into the urinals.
    Ah for godsakes, don't insult me.
    I didn't think I had to elaborate there and describe the way they were standing???
    Of course they aren't.

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    I know. I can't wrap my head around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I think an 8 or 9 year old boy who is starting to develop his own individuality and masculinity would disagree with you there.
    Disagree with me how?
    I never said I'd make an 8 or 9 yr old use the ladies.

    I did mention earlier that at that age it's a toughie because while they seem old enough to use the mens on their own, I would not allow that either.
    I would accompany him into the mens toilets even though it will look or seem unnecessary to the men using the toilets at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    Ah for godsakes, don't insult me.
    I didn't think I had to elaborate there and describe the way they were standing???
    Of course they aren't.
    Then what is traumatising about the experience?? Seriously.

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    Em, Nancy Blackett and Sonja...
    I did admit traumatise was too strong a word, do you want to keep going around in circles here?

    Post #183 if you're looking for it
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    Then what is so weird about it that their vivid little minds won't cope with the experience?

    The smell? The invisible penises?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    Yeah OK a bit OTT but have you gone into a mens toilet.
    They're WEIRD!
    You really get the feeling you have stepped in to their territory.
    That's my feeling on it, and a child's world is so much more vivid and impressionable.
    This one?

    So because men's toilets are weird?
    I still don't get it. Lots of things are weird to children. Doesn't make them bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phony View Post
    Yeah OK a bit OTT but have you gone into a mens toilet.
    They're WEIRD!
    You really get the feeling you have stepped in to their territory.
    That's my feeling on it, and a child's world is so much more vivid and impressionable.
    So it's ok for a man to step into a woman's territory but not ok for a young girl who is being accompanied by her father to step into mens territory?

    To be honest I would be very distressed at the idea of a man coming into the women's toilets. Not sure how exactly I would react but I would definitely be thinking WTF?!

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    Honestly, I often feel as a mother it's impossible to win but right now I am so relieved not to be a father.

    All these damn feminist wives expecting them to share the parenting duties but when they go to do something as simple as take their daughter to the toilet they simply can't do the right thing.

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