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    Why would you feel guilty? If there is someone doing things unethical and bordering on human rights abuse, it would be worse not to take the kids. They are our future and there is nothing wrong with raising politically interested kids

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    Apparently not.
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    I know there will be tears in this house if PP gets axed. I won't feel so guilty about taking the kids to the March in August even either.

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    Why would you feel guilty? If there is someone doing things unethical and bordering on human rights abuse, it would be worse not to take the kids. They are our future and there is nothing wrong with raising politically interested kids
    Generally I'm not a fan of having children at protests/marches. We're really big on trying to let the kids make up their own minds about such topics. Whilst some/most of the issues I would argue are cut and dry, DF and I prefer to avoid where possible inflicting our beliefs on the kids. Eg, with the whole religion thingy, just as we don't inflict religion on the kids we don't inflict our atheism on the kids - they grow up in a world of ignorance about such topics until they are old enough to have some ability to digest and critically think for themselves. Obviously parents are always going to have some influence on how their children think though (I acknowledge that). (I was actually really cross that we had to have 'the talk' with DS about religion because they started religious instruction classes at school and grade 1 and he didn't have a clue what was going on and why he was sent to another class - the opt out class. Up until that point he had no idea what religion or deities were).

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    Whilst I see what you are saying and agree that sounds like a really good way to raise kids, these government changes affect our kids massively, and so I totally think it is appropriate for them to be there! This is the difference between science and no science, help from a fully qualified person and help form a religious person with no training, I think having kids at these particular protest is ok.

    My DS1 is 7 and is absolutely in love with science, he has science books he carries around and reads from them. Tells people how the universe was formed, how blood works, which dinosaurs ate which other dinosaurs. I explained very basically, that this government doesn't value science and he said he wanted to go and march and hold a sign saying he "loves science". So we did. He doesn't get most of it, and that is fine. I have never brought him to a march ever before. Because I was raised in marches by very socially aware, political parents, and it used to drive me nuts as a kid (although having said that, I am now the most politically interested person I know - so maybe it was a good thing). But yeah - I like you, feel this is different, this Government is being extreme, and as such we need to be extreme back

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    Generally I'm not a fan of having children at protests/marches. We're really big on trying to let the kids make up their own minds about such topics. Whilst some/most of the issues I would argue are cut and dry, DF and I prefer to avoid where possible inflicting our beliefs on the kids. Eg, with the whole religion thingy, just as we don't inflict religion on the kids we don't inflict our atheism on the kids - they grow up in a world of ignorance about such topics until they are old enough to have some ability to digest and critically think for themselves. Obviously parents are always going to have some influence on how their children think though (I acknowledge that). (I was actually really cross that we had to have 'the talk' with DS about religion because they started religious instruction classes at school and grade 1 and he didn't have a clue what was going on and why he was sent to another class - the opt out class. Up until that point he had no idea what religion or deities were).

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    Well Tony Abbott isn't the new PM anymore, but I am getting a kick out of bumping this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Well Tony Abbott isn't the new PM anymore, but I am getting a kick out of bumping this thread
    Did you read this article? I thought it was quite interesting

    http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics...om-nnn-ebaby-o

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    Did you read this article? I thought it was quite interesting

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    Yeh, I saw it on facebook.

    The thing is that he's never really been that popular. Even if Bill Shorten is our next elected PM, I think it could be one term as well as I don't think the voters really approve of him either, they just dislike Abbott more.

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    Neither of the majors are winning elections, it's just that the side in Government keeps losing for being absolute @ss clowns!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GucciDahling View Post
    Neither of the majors are winning elections, it's just that the side in Government keeps losing for being absolute @ss clowns!
    Yes! But as per the article above. Tony Abbott was a vicious opposition leader banging on about being transparent, no surprises etc but he's been full of them.

    The one thing in Bill Shorten's favour is he is a mich quieter opposition leader. Still, I would love to see Albo as leader.


 

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