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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    John, and others like to quote that one sentence only and trust that the RACP's view is correct. But they do not agree with the RACP's entire document, they would much rather cherry pick the sentences that suit them and ignore the others. I happen to agree with the entire document.
    I also agree with the RACP document, including that the final decision rests with parents (which if nothing else, is a statement of fact). But if parents do decide to circumcise, they should not kid themselves that this is justified on medical grounds (which is the point of the quotation).

    "Routine" in a medical context means without medical indication, ie not treating a disease or deformity. In an Australan context, that usually means for reasons of family conformity (to be "like Dad") or aesthetic preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC View Post
    "Routine" in a medical context means without medical indication, ie not treating a disease or deformity. In an Australan context, that usually means for reasons of family conformity (to be "like Dad") or aesthetic preference.
    Would you care to provide a reference to that 'medical' definition. Or is that just your personal definition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Would you care to provide a reference to that 'medical' definition. Or is that just your personal definition?
    No problem. "Routine and ritual circumcision" is listed as item Z41.2 in the International Classification of Diseases-10th Edition-Australian Modified.

    That makes it a classification within subsection Z41, which is defined as "Procedures for purposes other than remedying health state". The other major item in that subsection is cosmetic surgery.

    Note that this is not "prophylactic surgery", which is subsection Z40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC View Post
    No problem. "Routine and ritual circumcision" is listed as item Z41.2 in the International Classification of Diseases-10th Edition-Australian Modified.

    That makes it a classification within subsection Z41, which is defined as "Procedures for purposes other than remedying health state". The other major item in that subsection is cosmetic surgery.

    Note that this is not "prophylactic surgery", which is subsection Z40.
    Thanks for that.


 

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