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    In the meantime, we should be expediting our efforts with the people who are already here. The thing that immediately comes to mind is restoring the right to work for those on Bridging Visa E, who account for 24,000 of asylum seekers on the mainland.

    The decision, taken in 2012, to block their right to work was based on a now-outdated policy and is both cruel to the people concerned and incredibly costly to the Australian community, since these people then require govt financial support. It makes no sense anymore (if it ever did).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC View Post
    The decision, taken in 2012, to block their right to work was based on a now-outdated policy and is both cruel to the people concerned and incredibly costly to the Australian community, since these people then require govt financial support. It makes no sense anymore (if it ever did).
    I agree. They should be working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC View Post
    In the meantime, we should be expediting our efforts with the people who are already here. The thing that immediately comes to mind is restoring the right to work for those on Bridging Visa E, who account for 24,000 of asylum seekers on the mainland.

    The decision, taken in 2012, to block their right to work was based on a now-outdated policy and is both cruel to the people concerned and incredibly costly to the Australian community, since these people then require govt financial support. It makes no sense anymore (if it ever did).
    100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    What would you do with the 10% that are not?
    Actually higher than 95% and those that are not found to be refugees are sent back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beancounter View Post
    Actually higher than 95% and those that are not found to be refugees are sent back.
    What reference are you using for that figure?

    Are you happy with sending back those who are not genuine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    What reference are you using for that figure?



    Are you happy with sending back those who are not genuine?

    Based on my employment with the humanitarian program at the department of immigration


    yes, if they are not genuine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Just taking more people doesn't solve the root cause. So what should we do to address the root cause?
    Why do you think I have all these answers? I work for the government but I'm not in parliament. I just know what we are doing isn't working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Just taking more people doesn't solve the root cause. So what should we do to address the root cause?
    The root causes are the radical income inequalities that exist on a global scale, which are themselves the historical consequences of the rapacious colonialism and imperialism that made the "developed world" rich and impoverished the rest of
    humanity while destroying their traditional societies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beancounter View Post
    Based on my employment with the humanitarian program at the department of immigration
    Would you care to provide a link with the relevant data?
    The refugee council does not say the figures are that high. And they have very detailed data.

    https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/r/stat-as.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    Why do you think I have all these answers? I work for the government but I'm not in parliament. I just know what we are doing isn't working.

    I never said that you have any answers. That's why I asked you the questions. It is easy to say 'the government is wrong' and 'it doesn't fix the problem', but those comments mean nothing unless you can provide a better alternative. If the government is 'wrong', then you must have the 'right' answer.

    What isn't working? It seems to be very much working from where I stand. The objective was not to fix the world's problems. It was to stop people risking their lives on boats in order country shop and gain entry into Australia. That objective appears to have been achieved. Unless you think the government had a different objective


 

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