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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpancakes View Post
    This topic scares me - I'm due to have a baby in August and the two kids nextdoor aren't vaccinated... I worry about them wanting to visit and hold my newborn. Might be an irrational pregnant-brain over worrying but it bothers me.
    I had this problem with an extended family members kids. I just said no. I wasn't prepared to take the risk. And it is a risk. A big one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emily173 View Post
    I'm posting this knowing that pro-vax people are going to pass judgement but here goes...
    I don't want my children vaccinated. I have done extensive reading in both sides of the vaccine world and have made a decision that I don't want my children vaccinated. The main reason is that I think the risk of contracting several diseases in infancy (like polio or tetanus) are very low, and not enough to warrant medicating a child so young. I also would like to point out that vaccination does not mean immunity, many vaccinated children still contract the illness. I think this is a choice and I feel like being pro or anti vax is becoming a cult - where pro vax people set out to 'educate' and marginalise people who don't share their faith in vaccines.
    The reasons why contracting these diseases is low is because of vaccines. I don't imagine this will be the case much longer. Measles is already on the rise again due to low vax rates. Of course it doesn't mean you can be completely sure you won't get a VPD... but it certainly is a start and helps.

    I wanted a share a few links with you. Obviously I'm pro vax. I'm wanting to share with you is about tetanus. Since this isn't a contagious disease.... most people don't think of it.
    Read this. ..
    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti...ectid=10855638
    There are other stories too if you Google.
    This story about pertussis is a personal one written by a young mum. ..
    http://shotbyshot.org/pertussis/kaliahs-story/

    I think sometimes people put these actual real life stories out of their minds and think they understand the science behind the vaccinations when unless you are a scientist who works in this field we can't really begin to understand. Instead listening to 'lay' people and the scaremongering. When I read stories such as these my heart breaks for these kids. And their families. I've seen my DD in intensive care. . at birth.. then at 3 weeks old. .. then at 4 months and again at 5 months. Nothing is as heart breaking as seeing your own baby hooked up to machines. .. Being on ventilators. Gosh if I could've given her something that would have potentially prevented that I would.
    That's why I vaccinate. But as a pro vax person I'm still nervous because I don't deny there is a risk (in response to the OP). There can be reactions... but the risk weighed up with the symptoms of the disease being vaccinated against... gosh. .. I can't imagine.
    I want to give my daughter the best in life and part of that is protecting her from the dangers out there in the world. ..vpds are part of that. I also love that it means I can in some way protect others because I vaccinated her.

    Edited to say that I'm not as well read or articulate on the subject. .. but I trust the drs around me and the proven facts that vaccines help to protect us.

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    No way would I be allowing that either lemonpancakes

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    I am a doctor, and it genuinely surprises me that we are even having this conversation on Bub Hub in 2014. Vaccines aren't a "belief system", but rather a clever use of human immunology/pathophysiology. It's First Year Medical School stuff.

    That probably sounds arrogant, but so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    I am a doctor, and it genuinely surprises me that we are even having this conversation on Bub Hub in 2014. Vaccines aren't a "belief system", but rather a clever use of human immunology/pathophysiology. It's First Year Medical School stuff.

    That probably sounds arrogant, but so be it.

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    Thank you! I think its so sad that anti-vaccers ignore the years and years of medical research and results and think that by googling "why are vaccines bad" and reading a few anti vax webpages they are now well read experts on the subject then go and put their children at risk.

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    Honestly sometimes I think maybe we need a few of these diseases to come back so people start to appreciate again how amazing vaccines are (an extreme viewpoint maybe). Perhaps more education needs to be done to show visually what these diseases were doing even 40 yrs ago.
    I also wonder if some people need to go back to the basic education of looking into how vaccines are developed - it isn't something a scientist makes up and jabs into a persons arm and hopes for the best while they go home and roll in all the cash they have made (or making big pharma rich).
    Also, adverse reactions are the majority of the time a sore arm or visible mark at injection site - people read 'adverse reaction' and they freak out thinking that means brain damage or autism.

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    It's not just children who need vaccinating either. It should be adults also. Make sure your vaccinations are up to date, if u travel make sure u r vaccinated for that country.
    I am pro vax and my MIL went overseas and contracted whopping cough.. My daughter who was not fully vaccinated due to her age was near her because the dr never said he though it was whopping cough. My mil however wears a face mask whenever she is sick just so she doesn't get anyone else sick especially when the grand kids are there.
    After she found out we all then had to go on antibiotics and they were not nice! Luckily none of us contracted it either although everyone else bar my dd was completely vaccinated.
    This was just a couple of yrs ago in qld when there was a massive outbreak of whopping cough.. It is still around and I'm pretty sure some children and adults died because they contracted whopping cough.

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    A local (unvaccinated) kid was transferred to a big city hospital for a liver transplant last week, because of chickenpox. There is a huge outbreak of measles and chickenpox in my area. I just don't understand why anyone would want to put their child at certain risk. It's just crazy that so many preventable diseases are on the comeback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MummaOJ View Post
    Honestly sometimes I think maybe we need a few of these diseases to come back so people start to appreciate again how amazing vaccines are (an extreme viewpoint maybe). Perhaps more education needs to be done to show visually what these diseases were doing even 40 yrs ago.
    I also wonder if some people need to go back to the basic education of looking into how vaccines are developed - it isn't something a scientist makes up and jabs into a persons arm and hopes for the best while they go home and roll in all the cash they have made (or making big pharma rich).
    Also, adverse reactions are the majority of the time a sore arm or visible mark at injection site - people read 'adverse reaction' and they freak out thinking that means brain damage or autism.
    Maybe some ads on tv like they do for smoking and drink driving etc. But for VPDs!

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