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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpancakes View Post
    I need to find a way to explain this to their mum, who is a nice woman, we are friendly with the neighbours despite me not agreeing with a few of their hippy ways.

    Plus they'll me just returning from a long overseas trip when my baby is born..so I'm worried they'll catch germs on the plane and give them to my baby.
    You might find this article interesting. It poses some interesting questions.
    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...n-with-unvacc/

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    If anti vaxxers chose not to because of genuine medical reasons then I can accept that, but I hadn't ever thought that maybe there are some anti vaxxers "taking a free ride". I just assumed at all anti vaxxers are against the whole idea of immunity and all the goes along with vaccines. That makes me mad. For the first 3 months of our precious kids lives they CANT be immunized. Should they contract something in those early months because of a "free rider" that is the most unfair and selfish thing ever. My SIL showed me a video of what whooping cough does to a newborn and that scared the hell out of me.

    Why anyone risk passing on a preventable disease to someone who can't be immunised is beyond me.

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    And thanks @Atropos for your input in these discussions. So great to have someone educated and willing to speak about this. @beebs looking forward to seeing your thoughts too.

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    There was an article on CNN on Tuesday about the last child in India with polio. She contracted it as a baby as she had been sick and not immunised. Since her diagnosis there have been no new cases of polio in three years. India has been declared polio free. I don't remember all of the details but I think it had one of the highest rates of polio in the world, and now none. This science stuff is amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpancakes View Post
    I need to find a way to explain this to their mum, who is a nice woman, we are friendly with the neighbours despite me not agreeing with a few of their hippy ways.

    Plus they'll me just returning from a long overseas trip when my baby is born..so I'm worried they'll catch germs on the plane and give them to my baby.
    I would just say that any child or adult who is not up-to-date with pertussis vaccination is not coming within spitting distance of your baby until the child is fully immunised. Whooping cough is a killer, and such a cocooning strategy is recommended by many doctors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leafy View Post
    There was an article on CNN on Tuesday about the last child in India with polio. She contracted it as a baby as she had been sick and not immunised. Since her diagnosis there have been no new cases of polio in three years. India has been declared polio free. I don't remember all of the details but I think it had one of the highest rates of polio in the world, and now none. This science stuff is amazing!
    Afghanistan, Pakistan and Nigeria to go. The first two are failed states, of course. But Nigeria saw a huge increase in vaccine-preventable diseases when Christian preachers decided immunising children was against the Bible.

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    I'm posting this knowing that pro-vax people are going to pass judgement but here goes...
    I don't want my children vaccinated. I have done extensive reading in both sides of the vaccine world and have made a decision that I don't want my children vaccinated. The main reason is that I think the risk of contracting several diseases in infancy (like polio or tetanus) are very low, and not enough to warrant medicating a child so young. I also would like to point out that vaccination does not mean immunity, many vaccinated children still contract the illness. I think this is a choice and I feel like being pro or anti vax is becoming a cult - where pro vax people set out to 'educate' and marginalise people who don't share their faith in vaccines.

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    People with the vax get a far lighter case of the disease Emily, so yes we are aware it isn't 100% immunity. The concern is that tetanus and polio are the least of your problems. Whooping cough and measles in particular is steadily rising to alarming levels, particularly in anti-vax areas and quite simply, they are deadly.

    Of course it's your choice but you seem to be under-estimating the diseases out there and how common they are becoming again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emily173 View Post
    I'm posting this knowing that pro-vax people are going to pass judgement but here goes...
    I don't want my children vaccinated. I have done extensive reading in both sides of the vaccine world and have made a decision that I don't want my children vaccinated. The main reason is that I think the risk of contracting several diseases in infancy (like polio or tetanus) are very low, and not enough to warrant medicating a child so young. I also would like to point out that vaccination does not mean immunity, many vaccinated children still contract the illness. I think this is a choice and I feel like being pro or anti vax is becoming a cult - where pro vax people set out to 'educate' and marginalise people who don't share their faith in vaccines.
    Just curious, (and this is a genuine question, not bring a smarty) but how will you go when the time comes to enrol your child/ren into Care/ kinder/school? Do they not accept non vaxxed kids?
    Another genuine question, are you of the belief that the chances of your child accidentally (for eg) stepping on a rusty nail while playing outdoors or even being nipped by a dog or cat at anytime during childhood is less likely to ever occur than them having a rare and possibly serious side effect to a vaccine?

    "Life Is Ours, We Live It Our Way".
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    And what what about measles? That isn't a disease.from the dark ages, it is still prevalent in this day and age... and possibly fatal, especially if nerve damage occurs to the brain.

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