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    Quote Originally Posted by javic View Post
    But they don't understand exactly what any one thing does in our bodies. They may have discovered one, or many, of the effects of fluoride, but there could be others that are yet undiscovered. They could not possibly know. And, believe me, I do not claim to know what they might be - but if I've come to know anything through my research into health it is that whatever we think we know there's a bucketload more we don't!

    How often are there things that are thought to be safe - then a decade or two or three later are found to have all sorts of issues?
    Fluoride has been in our water since the 50's and 60's (depending on your state). It is also naturally occurring.
    It's the dose that makes the poison. The level of it in tap water is proven safe. If you were to consume a bucket of it, perhaps not so safe
    The brilliant thing with science is it changes as we learn more. With vaccines- we already have a large body of information based on many years of research and study. And there is one thing that we DO know about them- they are safer than the diseases they protect against. Without them, you are far more likely to contract one of those diseases. With more and more people NOT vaccinating, these diseases are experiencing a resurgence. It is getting more and more dangerous to NOT vaccinate. There is SO much evidence for this.

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    OK...wasn't going to mention this, but can we take a moment to consider SMALL POX. It wiped out more than half of Europe's population.
    It has been declared ERADICATED by the WHO, thanks to the vaccine.
    Yes, the vaccine.
    Now can we please stop discussing the supposed "evils" of vaccinations, several HUNDRED years later??

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    Quote Originally Posted by javic View Post
    Cranky, I have seen a study showing vaccinated children have more colds and allergies - not sure how legit it is but it also seems to me that we have little way if knowing exactly what those vaccines are doing inside our tiny children's bodies. I almost wish I'd just taken a free ride with my kids.
    As other people have said I'd be interested to see this study to make sure it is scientifically proven.

    But in the end if it were true, Vaccines are not for colds and allergies, they are for measles, mumps, chicken pox, whooping cough, influenza, etc
    Do vaccinated children suffer these illnesses more then unvaccinated children???

    No they don't

    I AM all for free choice but again as mentioned this is something that affects the whole community.

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    [QUOTE=jmo1;7716442]Because by having the dose at birth they are protected by 6 months rather than 12 months old[/QUOTE

    It's a blood borne disease transmitted by sex, needle sharing with an infected person, sharing toothbrushes, tattoos. All pretty low risk to a newborn.

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    [QUOTE=Harriet;7717357]
    Quote Originally Posted by jmo1 View Post
    Because by having the dose at birth they are protected by 6 months rather than 12 months old[/QUOTE

    It's a blood borne disease transmitted by sex, needle sharing with an infected person, sharing toothbrushes, tattoos. All pretty low risk to a newborn.
    Yeeessss but also saliva blood transmission. So a bite from a kid in childcare could transmit it.

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    The sad fact is that some people are suckers for silly conspiracy theories. The moment you start seeing references to "aluminium" or "fluoride" you can bet your bottom dollar you are dealing with a signed up member of the tin-foil hat brigade.

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    [QUOTE=Harriet;7717357]
    Quote Originally Posted by jmo1 View Post
    Because by having the dose at birth they are protected by 6 months rather than 12 months old[/QUOTE

    It's a blood borne disease transmitted by sex, needle sharing with an infected person, sharing toothbrushes, tattoos. All pretty low risk to a newborn.
    You can also easily delay the birth vax but IMO there no real benefit to that, so why not get it done iykwim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    Yep! I know people that went off one person's word that vaccines are bad. They really look up to her and, well, if she said it then it must be true, right? I tried to have a conversation with one of these people about why they don't vaccinate and they couldn't even give me an answer... absolutely clueless
    It is clueless and it is also seriously fu$&ed up.

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    I wish there was a vaccine for the common cold, I would get it without hesitation!

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    Should the current policy settings fail to improve vax rates, then the next obvious step is to remove "conscientous objection" as a legimate ground for claiming the Family Tax benefit, and indeed enrolment in childcare and schools.

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