So the remaining 7 embryos didn't make it to freeze. Has me questioning the embies on board now.
So the remaining 7 embryos didn't make it to freeze. Has me questioning the embies on board now.
Hello from sunny Cape Town
just to weigh in on the FS v GP convo, once you get your BFP you will no doubt go to an obstetrician, you can see them from very early on if you have concerns and frankly, anyone who uses donor eggs should be seen early on and watched closely through the pregnancy as we have much higher risks. An FS isn't really necessary, all they do is write scripts and bloods which can be done by your GP, they do get the blood results earlier than GPs but waiting a day for results as opposed to paying 1000, it's just personal choice. What you need to focus on is getting the BFP and we are all heading in the right direction to obtain that.
Biba Jani I have heard the story's about JoBurg being unsafe, so its best to be careful, i.e don't go anywhere at night unless you go by car. I have no idea about Sun City though, I thought it was a large resort type area outside of JoBurg and if that's the case it should be fine they will have their own security. Good luck with your visa.
Esperanza my first cycle, I was told none of my eggs were good enough to freeze and I got pregnant, try not to worry about it. Fingers crossed for youyou
Weather in Cape Town is great around 22 or so, but it's getting cold, we are expecting rain next week. Those soon to arrive might want to think about bringing a cardi or jumper with them.
I had my lining scan today, the lining wasn't as good as I had hoped but I still have 5 days to go til transfer. I've stocked up on eggs and avocado. Dr LR and I discussed my egg situation, the single egg will be defrosted he will get the embryologist to make sure there is nothing wrong with it, any doubts and he will defrost the others and I will use them. This is my last trip, if it doesn't work I'm giving up so he wants to make sure I have every chance possible. Here's hoping it works.
Esperenza - try not to worry about not having any to freeze. I felt exactly the same way on my cycle, but you only need one of those embies inside of you to take and you're in business. I know it's a really hard time, but try to keep your mind occupied up until your BT and worry about crossing that bridge when you come to it. For now, put all your positive energy into taking care of yourself.
Biba Jani - I've been to Sun City, albeit a long time ago now (I was only a young girl at the time). It is safe, but it is quite a few hours from Johannesburg from memory? Are you doing your cycle in J'Berg? If not, I would be concentrating on visiting places in and around Cape Town. After having been to Cape Town in August I would not even entertain the thought of going back to Johannesburg, purely because there is just so much to do and see in Cape Town and it is MUCH safer.
Jodi- thinking positively for you. I have no doubt that your lining will improve in the next 5 days. You are in the best possible hands with Dr LR. You just know that he will give you the best advice for you as well as for those embryos. Hoping to hear positive updates from you in the next couple of weeks.
Not quite sure who asked about the care leading up to the cycle - but my IVF Clinic here in Sydney (IVF Australia in Greenwich) were really wonderful to me and did not charge me for any of my tests or scans leading up to my trip to SA and wrote out all my prescriptions necessary for Cape Town. I had completed 3 cycles with them already - and they also looked after me up until I was 8 weeks pregnant when they handed me over to my OB. My GP is also wonderful and I know he would have written all the scripts and organised lining scans etc here for me in Aus before I left as well as ultra sounds upon my return. I think if you have done several cycles with them and ask them what they would be prepared to do in order to assist you, most would be willing to help. I would have been happy to pay a fee for this, but my FS was just so willing to help me achieve a pregnancy after all we had been through that they would not hear of it. Also, my advice to you ladies who are PG if you have not already done so, is to start researching to find a good OB if you don't already have one. Make sure that you get on the phone to them and tell them that you are pregnant with ED as this increases your chances for complications with the pregnancy, purely because the genetics involved are not our own. As Jodi said, we do require closer observation because of the ED connection, but also because of age (most of us are over 40) as well as our miscarriage history. My OB without a doubt saved my life in this pregnancy, I don't know what I would have done without him. Although they can be expensive, it really is a small price to pay for the peace of mind that you can call somebody at any time of the day or night.
AFM - my nights are sleepless. I'm sitting here at 3.35am typing to you all as I cannot get comfortable at night. I am 38 weeks today and my body is well and truly writing my bub the eviction notice as we speak! Wednesday cannot come soon enough for me. I'm great during the days, but the nights are long and restless. Still, a very small price to pay for the miracle we have been given, so I just keep reminding myself of this and get stuck into another round of candy crush... OMG I am so addicted it's not funny!
Lots of love and baby dust to all of you - especially to the ladies in SA at the moment, as well as those of you in the 2WW.
FS /OB versus GP upon return and BFP
Hi Ladies & Bloke,
I will try and briefly recount my story from last year for those who may not have read it. I returned from Cape Town in July and low and behold a surprising BFP. I did not have an OB or FS lined up for care as quite frankly I had not even considered it. My numbers were not normal, indicating either biochemical or ectopic. The GP's I saw had no idea what to do with me and just recommended I continue on the meds and if I had severe pain to go straight to emergency. This went on for 2-3 weeks. I was beside myself as I could not get into a specialist or OB at short notice so had to persevere with GP's.
I got in touch with a girlfriend who used to work at my old fertility clinic and she managed to pull a few strings and got me in to see my old FS. I saw him and he gave me the option of an injection there and then to dissolve the unviable pregnancy, or stop all meds and see if things sorted themselves out naturally. I asked to stop meds and do another BT in a week. This worked and the pregnancy resolved. I was so grateful that someone finally could tell me what to do rather than shrug their shoulders or worse still pat me on the arm as I left the consulting room.
The GP's I saw could not give me these options and (I tried 3 different ones who all looked at a bit of a loss as to what to do with me). I was left feeling alone and desperate. I was in limbo and desperate for someone to help.
My situation was unusual but when it goes wrong you need proper care. Due to my experience last year I made an appointment at my FS clinic in advance in case I returned with another BFP as I wanted expert care. I figured I could always cancel it if I got a BFN. I am so glad I did. I am only charged the occasional specialist appointment and scan fees. Weekly BT are covered by medicare. They are forwarding all my results to my OB who I start seeing next week. I could not feel in better hands.
That was my experience and I hope by sharing this again it helps you all in ensuring you get the best care on your return.
Have a lovely weekend everyone
A quick check in to update on our progress and ask for some help/advise! After our unsuccessful trip to Cape Town in January we decided that Johannesburg was to be our last attempt. I went across over the Easter period and am blown away to report we are now pregnant. I must admit, I was bracing myself for the worst and just about ready to close the whole baby door so its all feeling a little surreal at the moment. Still early days but just unbelievable.
What I need some advise/help with is I am about to run out of the Gestone (progesterone in oil) injections and I cannot source them anywhere in Perth, WA where we live. I have 6 left and need to take until 12 weeks stage. The clinic in J'burg uses Cyclogest suppositories as second option and I did query about the Crinone pessaries as I have some of them from last OE cycle but they are not keen on using the Crinone. Can anyone point me in another direction regarding sourcing the Gestone injections?
Good luck to everyone in Cape Town at the moment or just about on their way and all those lucky enough to get a thumbs up is such a hard road to travel and the constant waiting for the next stage is impossible.
Congratulations on your BFP
I think there is an international pharmacy that you may be able to source them through. One of the ladies on here may know how? Have you asked your clinic in Joburg how to get more?
I have changed to pessaries and am being managed closely by my Fertility Clinic at almost 7 weeks. Are you with a FS specialist who can look after and monitor your hormone levels?
Good luck, the whole process does not get less stressful even after your BFP. Every BT is another hurdle jumped!
Hi ladies. Sorry to intrude!
Jacks I get my gestone injections mailed to me overnight from Brisbane. If you scan your script and email it or even fax it they can get it to you quickly.
Let me know if you would like the details
Good luck to all the lovely ladies here cycling.
They are quite strict about what they freeze.
The Dr would have picked the best two out of around 10 (I assume from what you had to freeze). They are also 5 day embies - I think you will be fine
Esperanza, you have 2 great embabies home and frosties is a nice back up but as JodiW and many others here can vouch they put the best ones back. Enjoy your last couple of days in CT and have a good flight home.
JodiW, sounds like you are in very good hands with Dr LR. 5 days and sure your lining will be where you hope it to be. he he, also started on having eggs and avocados every day.
Agree with January, having someone lined up that is familiar with IVF protocols is a must for those BFP. I too had a bit of a nightmare experience with my cycle i miscarried in as I returned from Moscow (where we were living at the time and did our first 3 cycles) with a poor beta result and was told id miscarry within days but 2 weeks later my hcg was still rising (not doubling) and once ectopic was ruled out I had to go to a walk in clinic for BT and saw a different Dr each time and had to explain everything as most GP's just do not understand the process at all, this dragged on until 10 weeks when i sadly miscarried on boxing day 2012. It was very distressing. Glad you are in good hands this time, bet you cannot wait for you next u/s to see your little one.
Rainbowchaser, you post made me smile as much as my husband despises it, i too am addicted to candy crush and fruit heroes - definitely a good 2ww time waster and companion for those sleepless nights. I am guessing waiting to meet your little man is like the 2ww all over again.
Congrats Jacks69sorry i cannot help with your gestone query but sure someone here will be able to help.
Babi Jani, J'burg you do really have to choose where you stay and what you do it can be unsafe. We travelled around SA in 2010 for the world cup and locals at B&B's we stayed in were very worried about us and often would drop us off and come and pick us up from pubs and told us off for walking the streets or using any other taxi service than the ones they'd given us in many of the towns/cities. The only place we stayed where we could walk freely like we do at home was CT. Sun City is a resort so is also ok so have the holiday you want but just have you whits about you, you are better to be over cautious in my opinion especially once you have your precious extra 'cargo' on board.
helonweels, i've sent you a PM i think, let me know if you do not receive it.
Congratulations Great news !!!!!
There are lots of chemists that do IVF type drugs in all the major cities - try googling something like "ivf drugs chemists perth" and contact the ones that come up by phone or email to see if they have supplies.
I would spend the extra money on hiring a car and travel randomly around Cape Town. There are so many beautiful spots and its very relaxing. You will easily fill up your time. Its very safe compared to Joburg. You can have a wonderful time (get your hubby to go shark cage diving if he wants to do something adventurous - its amazing)
After a week or so we felt safe enough to pick up locals if we were going in the same direction - we felt they were just hard working people trying to get home after a hard days work. They were usually just lovely women wanting to get home and cook for their families.
I would not advise this for everyone, and you have to use your instincts, but I would not have considered this in Jburg
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