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    Oh come on it's hardly a new topic..there's nothing wrong with minimum wage and the PPL the way it is now - extend it to 26 weeks, but it should be a set wage and it's just not realistic to match every woman's current wage. I'm sure I'd love half my current wage which is far more than minimum wage but I'm realistic and know that it's not going to happen

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    But why not? Why is it that the government seems to think it'll happen and that they can afford it but the public doesn't want it. This was a promise the liberals got elected on. Why is it so unpalatable now?

    Look I hate the idea because I would have received twice as much in paid maternity leave and if this comes in it replaces my private entitlements which I hate the idea of. But I'm not having any more kids so it doesn't concern me.

    Leaving aside the affordability argument which if we believe TA the government can pay for it why is it so hard for other women to see value in paying women more for maternity leave?

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    Women are each others worst enemy sometimes. I have seen so many people say `I got nothing, why should you get anything' `Minimum wage was good enough for me' `Why should we pay rich (ha) women to have babies'.

    Why can't we want more for each other? As long as it is not taking away from others, why not demand that we be adequately compensated to take time out of our careers? Why not say we deserve to be paid superannuation while we are on maternity leave?

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    @NoteToSelf. I agree entirely.

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    And why do we think it is so ludicrous when other prosperous OECD countries offer replacement wage? It's hardly an original and "out there" idea.

    And I think most hubbers need to accept that they do not understand the economics of parental leave. At all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoteToSelf View Post
    Women are each others worst enemy sometimes. I have seen so many people say `I got nothing, why should you get anything' `Minimum wage was good enough for me' `Why should we pay rich (ha) women to have babies'.

    Why can't we want more for each other? As long as it is not taking away from others, why not demand that we be adequately compensated to take time out of our careers? Why not say we deserve to be paid superannuation while we are on maternity leave?
    Thank you.

    It's the whole 'I want what she has' mentality and it sh!ts me to no end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post

    And I think most hubbers need to accept that they do not understand the economics of parental leave. At all.
    That's a bit rich.. Perhaps people are disagreeing based on non economic reasons (values, culture etc). What makes you so qualified on the topic anyway?

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    I would wager I know a bit more than most hubbers because of my degree and my job and a personal interest in the area I'm not saying all of course - plenty on here know more than me. I don't think it's rich at all to say you probably know more about something than others? I'm sure there are lots of things you know more about than me and I don't take offence to it.

    There have been loads of comments about how this scheme is too expensive without any real understanding of how it works and the economic benefits it brings to the country. I have posted links before which have been ignored so I assume unread.

    Comments like "why is one baby worth more than another" highlight the lack of understanding. Calling it "welfare" is another.

    Of course there are other non-economic reasons to argue against it if you wish (not sure why you would) but I'm only talking about the economics. The "steal from the poor to give to the rich" comments are ludicrous. And yes I am paraphrasing there.

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    On a personal note, I would prefer to have more affordable childcare and leave the scheme at 26 weeks minimum wage with super! But that's because I pay $27k a year in childcare for one child for four days. $19.5k after rebate. Out of my post tax salary. Ludicrous! But that's another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    On a personal note, I would prefer to have more affordable childcare and leave the scheme at 26 weeks minimum wage with super! But that's because I pay $27k a year in childcare for one child for four days. $19.5k after rebate. Out of my post tax salary. Ludicrous! But that's another thread.
    I agree. Helping women to temporarily take time off work when they have bub is nearly pointless if they can't afford to go back to work.


 

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