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    The Age article is a pie in the sky piece written by.... A male.

    Shared parenting in the first year is an unrealistic goal for many families due tot the fact treat women's boobs produce milk and men's don't.

    That being said a family can choose for the man to take the governments paid parental leave. If they don't it's hardly the governments fault. Blame god (who apparently made men with useless boobs) or the wife (who probably wants to stay home with young bubba).

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    @kw123 yes I agree, I work in an industry with 90% of male employees (...) and I have never seen one of them taking a parental leave.

    One of my colleague tried though but his wife wouldn't go back to work, he was quite upset to miss on 14 weeks paid of bonding with baby
    And she works from home and she is making more money than him :/
    In the end he took 1 month off (annual leave) which is already much more than I have ever seen in my industry.

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    About breast feeding, I think it's a cop out (don't kill me yet). I believe in the there's no problem only solution

    Especially when we are talking about a 10 mo BF baby. It's hardly the same issue than it would be with a 6wks old baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili81 View Post
    About breast feeding, I think it's a cop out (don't kill me yet). I believe in the there's no problem only solution

    Especially when we are talking about a 10 mo BF baby. It's hardly the same issue than it would be with a 6wks old baby
    Not a cop out at all. A 10 month old may still be having 3 feeds per day, at least one of them during 'office hours.' Cows milk isn't recommended as a drink until bub is 12 months old. And not trying to bag out formula mums but many Bf'ers would prefer to not use formula.

    So... If a bf'ing mum went back to work when her bub was 10 months old she would have to pump while at work which can be a real pain in the butt. How do I know this? I went back to work when my bub was 10 months old as I didn't know how difficult the pumping would be. I had to pump 3 times per day to get enough milk for bubs daycare bottle. Each time took 40 minutes or 60 each if you include cleaning and packing etc. pumping at work was hard: yeah there was a room but it was a dog box. And in my busy job working out when I could steal 1 hour to pump was hard. The whole episode was stressful.

    This time around I'm taking just under 12 months. I love my job and I live working.. If it wasn't for breastfeeding I wouldn't mind swapping care with hubby at the 6 month mark. However.... No way I want to pump for daycare any longer than a few weeks. Apologies if that screws the women's lib movement...

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    Talking about PPL is hardly women's lib.

    And how the hell did this become a pro-BFing thread all of a sudden? It's really not the place for "BFing is about so much more than just feeding your baby.." type comments. I'm all for thread tangents usually but I really do not want this one (again!).

    I would rather go back to work when baby is 6 months and use formula than breastfeed. To me, my career and working is more important, as is my DH being primary carer for a few months. Each to their own.

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    I recently returned to work 2 days a week. DD4 is 7 months old. I am still breastfeeding her - on the days I work her last feed is 8am and she doesn't have me again til 4. I don't pump at work and my supply is fine. She is well established on solids and has only one bottle while I'm at work.

    I have an incredibly flexible working environment and do a lot of work from home.

    Honestly, my DH would give an arm and 2 legs for his kids but not his job or even a few month off. He'd hate being at home all the time. He's not cut out for it at all. He's great with the kids, full of enthusiasm, cooks for them, gets up during the night, but I think if he was a SAHD for even a few months he'd find it very difficult.

    I think it's a combination of men not really wanting to be at home full time and women finding it a lot easier to stay home than try and organise life around work and kids. My working days can be hectic and chaotic, and I know I am missing out of time with my youngest while I am at work, but because it's important to me I try and do my best to make it work.

    I guess what experience with working with 4 kids has taught me if you want to make something happen badly enough you find a way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    Talking about PPL is hardly women's lib.

    And how the hell did this become a pro-BFing thread all of a sudden? It's really not the place for "BFing is about so much more than just feeding your baby.." type comments. I'm all for thread tangents usually but I really do not want this one (again!).

    I would rather go back to work when baby is 6 months and use formula than breastfeed. To me, my career and working is more important, as is my DH being primary carer for a few months. Each to their own.
    Hey I'm not anti formula at all. Infact after the last 4 weeks (bf'ing a newborn) I totally get and support a woman's right to formula feed. This isn't about boobs or bottles. It's about the undeniable fact that feeding a baby can impact on a mans ability to take extensive ppl in bubs first year of life. It's an integral part of what the articles in the OP were getting at.

    I'm not choosing to have a year off because I hate formula or I hate my job (I love it). It's because I want to breastfeed and look after bub. I suppose things maybe different for me as my career is already established. A years mat leave won't make any difference for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Hey I'm not anti formula at all.
    I know you're not VP

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    I say breastfeeding is a cop out cause they are ways around it.

    A mum in my mothers group had the dad bringing bub to her work for the mid day feed.
    I was expressing at work and giving ebm to bub. I could have also chose to use my lactating breaks together with my lunch break and get back to bub for a feed.
    Or a bub who has started solids can go with a morning and night feed and make up for extra feeds at night if needed.

    Babies are resilient.

    If we choose to I believe we can think outside the box and dads could have the chance to experience being at home within the first year of their baby's life while keeping the breastfeeding going

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    My husband wouldn't cope being at home full time. He loves his kids and enjoys his weekends with them but there's no way he would want to do it on his own for long.

    Even if he did and I was bf, it's just too unrealistic to bring our babies to my work as I work over 50km away from home.

    My husband also earns way, way more than I could ever imagine. Financially it would be a huge burden for us to take such a big pay cut.

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