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    Default To organic or not to organic...

    So DH and I were talking about how our diet has taken a turn for the worst and it got me thinking, should we start doing the 'organic thing'?
    Is it worth it? How far? And if you don't do it all the way is it really worth it?
    once upon a time pre kids we were really into it, we used to go to the organic Sunday markets and an organic butcher and I'd buy non perishables at the grocery shop but organic as much as I could, we were even making our own bread and pasta which ain't happening now!
    I know it's more expensive but I used to balance it out by using everything I bought and without the expense of junk food it really wasn't that bad...
    I suppose I'm looking for others opinions on the health benefits and is our 'normal' food really that bad for you?

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    I'm interested to know more too. I always thought organic wasn't worth the extra money but have recently found an organic fruit and veg shop where the prices are really reasonable. Only thing is the fruit looks weird and I don't know if its worth buying if it doesn't look appetising. The veg is good tho. So now I have to decide if I can be bothered getting my veg in one store and my fruit at our regular supermarket. Is it worth the extra effort? I sound lazy but when ur a busy working mum convenience is a priority. Is there really that much more benefit eating organic?

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    I think any change to a healthy fresh non processed/packet food diet is beneficial and you just do what you can afford but as you mentioned the money you save making your own food will help with the cost of buying organic

    There are some foods I think are an organic must ( chicken/potatoes/corn/celery/greens/fruits with edible skin etc ) and some you can just buy non organic Australian grown produce like avocados or bananas with thick skins or grass fed beef and lamb ( be very careful over some imported fruits/veggies/meat/seafood as their chemical/ processing restrictions are not as good as ours and I still think ours need updating!)

    The benefits for going organic are many including better quality of life for the animals and much better for our environment plus the taste alone in some foods is remarkably better !

    The main benefit is it will lower your exposure to pesticides which is a great benefit when you add up how many other chemicals/ preservatives/additives/GMO foods are in the rest of our food

    I would just start by buying organic what you can afford and tossing any pre packages meals/sauces/stocks/soft drinks etc and make your own

    Also I find that the fruit and veg especially is just fresher and tastier compared to the rubbish that the big supermarkets sell which can be old/frozen whereas the only disadvantage with organic fruit and veg is it doesn't last as long but that does not bother me as I shop a few times a week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    The benefits for going organic are many including better quality of life for the animals and much better for our environment plus the taste alone in some foods is remarkably better !
    I have to take issue with the environment assertion there...
    There are some ways in which organic farming can be argued to be better (such as being more likely to sustain biodiversity), and others in which is can be argued to be worse (such as requiring significantly more cleared land).

    Personally, from everything I've read... no. I think it's almost entirely marketing. I used to be very much into organics, and would justify it to everyone until...you know... I actually tried to justify it with evidence. It isn't there.

    Anyway I'm going to back out right here, because I think I've had my fill of arguing in favour of evidence on Bubhub recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renn View Post
    I have to take issue with the environment assertion there...
    There are some ways in which organic farming can be argued to be better (such as being more likely to sustain biodiversity), and others in which is can be argued to be worse (such as requiring significantly more cleared land).

    Personally, from everything I've read... no. I think it's almost entirely marketing. I used to be very much into organics, and would justify it to everyone until...you know... I actually tried to justify it with evidence. It isn't there.

    Anyway I'm going to back out right here, because I think I've had my fill of arguing in favour of evidence on Bubhub recently.
    Agree 100%

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    Is it really that bad to use pre packed stock and sauces? I try cook from scratch where possible but I wouldn't know how to make stock or sauce apart from a basic tomato sauce for pasta.

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    A vast majority of pre made stocks ( cubes or powders especially) have msg and other additives - you can buy organic or additive free but it's more expensive and it really is easy to do your own and freeze it

    some sauces I'm sure are also ok but again read what's in the sauce you buy and check if it contains msg or other additives and usually lots salt and sugar , the odd bit of sauce won't hurt it's just when you sit down and write out the additives/ preservatives you eat in a day it can be frightening !

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    I agree with Renn but I do sit on the fence a bit with organic food.

    I do buy organic, free range, green pasture chicken but that's more about ethics than meat quality.
    Our sheep, beef and pork is all free range, green pasture (or at least hay during summer) and again that's because I don't want to see my lambies or cows stuck in a stinky old shed.

    As for fruit and veg I wonder if it's just a marketing ploy - sort of like angus beef - I wonder about soil quality without the use of fertilisers which would then effect produce quality.
    There's so much that effects the quality of produce such as climate, soil, the timing of harvest and storage so to compare an organic crops nutritional content to a conventional crops content would be difficult unless both crops where grown, harvested and stored under the exact same conditions. The difference in our crops every year just on rainfall alone is huge.

    Plus who is to say that organic crops are truly organic? Pesticides and chemicals have been found to stay in soils for 20 years.

    I don't know? Like I said I'm on the fence.
    Of course limiting our exposure to chemicals is a good idea however I don't think families should compromise the amount of fruit and veg they can afford to buy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dollypops View Post
    Is it really that bad to use pre packed stock and sauces? I try cook from scratch where possible but I wouldn't know how to make stock or sauce apart from a basic tomato sauce for pasta.
    Oh it's so easy

    All those crappy old veggies in your fridge - you know, floppy carrots lol- stick them in a strainer over boiling water and cook.
    If you've got old chicken bones - I buy those mixed packs I think they are like $4 on special - chuck them in for chicken stock
    Or beef bones for beef stock.

    Freeze in 250ml portions


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