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    Default Feedback wanted on Fertility First in Sydney?

    Hello everyone.... I am currently in North Queensland and have went through my first iVF cycle with a clinic up here... Now we didn't have great results and I am not blaming the clinic at all, but I am looking at going to Sydney (as I have a place to stay down there) for another go...the biggest reason for this trial is due to being in regional OZ the clinics here do not have the facilities to fit my cycle in with their schedule and have to put my on the pill for me to fit in with theirs...

    Now the pill really messes with me... I don't like the person I become on it and I don't like the way it makes me feel... So I would really like to find a clinic that works with my body and not the other way around...

    also me and DH have many many issues... DH has low sperm count but does seem to be getting better... I have mild endro but it has been removed about a 1.5 years ago but who knows if it is back or not.. My left ovary seems to be non functional... My AMH is 9 ( and that was taken over three years ago so no idea what it might be now)... I am 36 years old... And looks like my family has a history of young menopause (which I didn't get told until i was 34 years old) and have been TTC for about 8 years... Oh and I have Hashimotoes hypothyroidism.

    I was told that FS Dr Anne Clarke is a really good FS? Was wondering if any of you ladies have any positive or negative feedback about Fertility First? Or any other recommendations?

    Thank you in advance.

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    Hi Soques,
    I did several cycles with FF in 2009 and while I hear they are awesome particularly for same sex female couples due to their donor sperm program I wasn't that impressed (long waiting times for bt's and scans, hard to get in touch with Anne personally to discuss my treatment and I didn't feel my situation was looked at individually). As I said it was awhile ago maybe things are different.

    I have cycled with 3 different clinics in Sydney and if you are going to make the effort to come all the way to Sydney I would highly recommend Genea. They have clinics all over Sydney and were the most well organised, personalised and treatment inclusive clinic I have dealt with. My situation was very complex with mutual infertility issues and I thought Genea were excellent in both the professionalism, expertise and level of care I experienced. My FS was Devora Leiberman however there are many excellent FS's there. Good luck with your decision
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    @ Starf1sh - Thanks and once I called them today I can see what you mean...

    so today I sat down and did some pretty full on research into other clinics for options... I have narrowed it down to three... now have to pick a doctor... any help you lovely ladies can do for me to get it even closer would be great (I have started another thread on BH so you might have already responded to that, please PM me if you don't want to publish here thats fine too) but as I have no friends or relatives in the areas I am looking at I am really looking for helpful (good or bad) feedback.


    Genea - Sydney CBD Clinic - Dr Mark Bowman or Dr Alison Gee

    Fertility East (bondi junction) - Dr Julie Lukic or Dr Jenny Cook

    Assisted Conception (Brisbane) - Dr Clare Boothroyd

    Any help is much appreciated.

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    Good points of FF:
    - Dr Anne Clark was very hopeful after looking over my NG + IVFA cycles - wanted to try different meds and dosages
    - uses HGH Saizen as normal, where as I asked many times at IVFA, but Prof I always said no
    - uses Pregnyl injections as normal to ward off AF after ET, where as at IVFA Prof I only agreed to this after I had 3 failures
    - uses aspiring for ANA issues as normal, again IVFA said no until 3 failures
    - some BTs done through Laverty, so you can find a place much closer to home than Hurstville

    Not happy with FF:
    - only 2 BTs before EPU, where as at IVFA I would normally have 3-4
    - they would not give me the numbers from the BTs, just would say "it's all good" - I asked specifically three of four times during each of the two phonecalls and they were very cagey. On the second phonecall, I absolutely insisted and eventually she relented and told me a number
    - there was only 1 internal ultrasound, where as at IVFA I averaged between 3-4 each cycle, including final one of day of trigger
    - the internal ultrasound was super quick - no joke, perhaps 10 seconds in total!! The quickest look at the lining (good, as it always is), can't find left ovary (IVFA always spend up to 10 minutes, with various technicians coming to try, and usually do find it with lots of effort and pressing of tummy etc), right ovary (yes, Dr Clark says, EPU on Mon. To which I have to ask, "how many did you find?" There's two, she says. I ask "What size are they". She hasn't even measured, so measures only the big one after I ask).
    - we choose our sperm donor, only to be told 2 days before EPU that he was not available! No explanation why he was on the list when he's not available. Mad panic then to choose a new donor, and frantic phone calls to check if he is available, so was asked to choose a back-up.
    - at one of the BTs, a nurse says, "so your DH is doing a sperm sample, so you're not using the donor now?" NO!! That's the whole point - the donor is to be used if DH has no sperm, and that's actually what will probably happen (and did happen!). Plus I've already paid for it!
    - BTs at FF pay no attention to a scheduled time. For one of the pre BTs, I turned up, to find, no joke, about 15 women there crammed in the waiting room. I ended up 1 and half hours late, and had to phone work to say I was running way late.
    - when I brought in my filled needle canister and asked for a replacement, the nurse said she didn't have any, and proceeded to shake (like a money box) all the used needles out into her big waste bin. I'm sure that's not how it's supposed to be done.
    - one BT I turned up for, the receptionist says, your BT is not today, X of Feb, it's X of March. I said, "Well, the whole cycle will be over if we wait until March!!" They squeezed me in.
    - when it came to ET there was a little confusion over whether the embie was mine, or the next lady in the queue who happened to have the same first name as me!! the embryologist was quite sure, but Dr C checked it about 4 times, that became a bit disconcerting.

    I've been through enough cycles, that I'm very relaxed this time, that what happens, happens, so I didn't particularly worry about any of these things, as this was always an extra cycle while we waited for time to pass to use my sister's eggs. But I feel sorry for all those women attending FF, that they think this is "normal" when they don't have anything to compare. Even though reception at IVFA doesn't always work smoothly (e.g. stuff up with Medicare rebates), I think the medical side is more important. I'm very happy that I tried FF, as I can go away now knowing that I've tried everything in respect to clinics. If we'd gotten 5 or 6 eggs this time at FF, then it may have been a different story, but to get just 1 mature egg is pretty low on the list in comparison to previous cycles at NG and IVFA. In the end I feel that they just push women through. Yes, that's my opinion, but also my experience, in comparison to two other clinics. I've heard good things about Genea, but they don't have anonymous donor sperm, which we needed.

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    Thanks Bertie,

    I saw your post on another thread... I have definitely put them out of the running.

    I really appreciate your honest feedback. Its very helpful.

    Cheers
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    I want to take this time to Thank all of you that have given me feedback about doctors and clinics... I have made a skype appointment with Dr Devora Leiberman from Genea for next Wednesday... And if AF stays away that long we might be able to start a cycle a few days following that... I was so excited I was able to get into see her straight away.... So FX everything runs according to plan.

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    Hi! I too am confused about which clinic to choose for my IVF journey. I just saw your post and have a referral for Genea (Lieberman and Bowman) and was wondering if you could share a little of your experience with Genea and if it was successful? Much appreciated thank you

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    Curious.... I have never been to Genea, but I heard and researched that it is really the best clinic in Sydney, and seems to have good success rates. I couldn't go there though, because they don't do anonymous donor sperm, so it depends really what your fertility issue is. There's only a couple of clinics that do anonymous donor sperm, that's why I went with IVFA (Westmead) but did also try Fertility First (Hurstville) once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curious7 View Post
    Hi! I too am confused about which clinic to choose for my IVF journey. I just saw your post and have a referral for Genea (Lieberman and Bowman) and was wondering if you could share a little of your experience with Genea and if it was successful? Much appreciated thank you
    I went through Genea with Dr Greening in Wollongong. I couldn't fault him. He knows his stuff. Successful 2nd time :-))

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    Hi! Wondering if you were successful and after how many attempts? What was your experience like with her? I also have booked with Genea (Lieberman)


    Quote Originally Posted by Soques View Post
    I want to take this time to Thank all of you that have given me feedback about doctors and clinics... I have made a skype appointment with Dr Devora Leiberman from Genea for next Wednesday... And if AF stays away that long we might be able to start a cycle a few days following that... I was so excited I was able to get into see her straight away.... So FX everything runs according to plan.


 

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