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    Quote Originally Posted by JR03 View Post
    Well done for putting so much effort into having a successful bf relationship this time around :-)

    I found that my daughter needed help to attach; I tried letting her attach herself but she had a very shallow latch and I ended up with really badly cracked nipples that had me expressing and bottle feeding for about 4 days when she was less than a week old because her latch was so painful. Once I got her latch sorted, my nipples healed but it took probably 2-3 weeks until she could successfully and correctly latch herself.

    While I highly recommend bf classes to understand the theory behind the techniques required, I think it's hard to be taught how to bf without your baby there to practice with. So keep getting as informed as possible but once bub arrives, ask your midwives at every feed to check the latch. I thought my daughter was doing it correctly and didn't get their help so was really upset about having such sore nipples once we got home.

    All the best for the rest of your pregnancy.
    Thanks JR03

    I have everything crossed that if I arm myself with so much more knowledge this time around I might have a better chance at success.

    I think my son may have had a shallow latch too or maybe it was more of the issue that there wasn't much nipple sticking out for him to physically latch onto.

    Yes I totally agree about the bf needing to be taught when you have the baby to practice with. I unfortunately didn't get the theory behind the techniques or the mechanics of breastfeeding prior so I think that was why I didn't succeed. My midwife also flew interstate to visit her son a few hours after my son was born so I didn't get that initial support either.

    My Ob wants me to be in contact with the specialist lactation consultants at the hospital and then once I am home I will have the private lactation consultant visit me at home too.

    Thanks for your reply 😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickenfoot83 View Post
    I also switched my first to formula about 11 weeks which I really regretted. I also have flat nipples and used a nipple shield with ds.
    With number two I was determined to bf when she was born she latched perfectly. Sadly a week later I developed cracked bleeding shredded nipples, blocked ducts and mastitis. I attended the breast centre and they picked up a tongue tie. By this stage I was back to using a shield and she had her tongue snipped at 5 weeks.
    We are still feeding with the shield now at 11 months. What got me through was determination, research, a good pump, a good lc and a strong support person to remind me of my goal.
    We also had a few days in bed and I would let her crawl to my breast and latch herself, Good luck!
    Thanks Chickenfoot83,

    It is so hard isn't it. The first nipple shields I had were the wrong size too so they were pinching.

    That is interesting that she latched perfectly when she was born even with the flag nipples or did your nipples change much the second time around?
    Ouch it sounds like you had a bad run with your nipples too. Lucky they picked up the tongue tie and got it fixed and you have managed to feed for 11 months that is fantastic! Shield or no shield I am not bothered, whatever works I reckon.

    What pump are you using? I can't wait for my Spectra S2 to arrive.

    I am hoping that this time as I am having a planned c-section I can have skin to skin contact straight away and attempt feeding while they are stitching me up.

    Thanks again 😀

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    I have practiced biological nursing since DD2 was about 6 months- when I first heard of it I didn't try from birth but doubt it would have worked for us as latch was something we both had to learn

    Good luck with your bf this time, it sounds like you're doing everything you can to ensure it works out. BH is great for advice, troubleshooting and tips
    Hi Atropos,

    Yay great to hear that someone else has heard of it and is using it. The positions just look so much more comfortable and natural to me.

    Yes breastfeeding is certainly a learned skill.

    I am feeling more positive this time around, fingers crossed it all works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpancakes View Post
    What is biological nurturing?
    Lemonpancakes (love your username, makes me feel hungry though)

    I have attached a few links for you above to check out 😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismusic View Post
    Hi, my baby was unable to latch due to low muscle tone from down syndrome, and he was in NICU for 4 weeks. I also had flat nipples and with the lc there to help used a nipple shield but w still couldn't get there at the time. For 3 months I expressed milk and supplemented with some formula when I ran out. I would also put him on the breast occasionally without the nipple shield to increase my supply. Well, one day after 3 months he just latched on. We still do EBM from the bottle when he is tired but most feeds are from the breast now, so even if you don't get it straight away you can keep trying with EBM if that works for you. I also use the spectra s2 and it is an awesome pump. I remember feeling so sad when I couldn't breastfeed and so shocked and happy when it finally worked out. Good luck, and whatever happens, know you're doing your best.
    Thanks Chrismusic,

    Wow I am super impressed that after 3 months he just latched on that is fantastic.
    That would have been tough having your little fella in NICU too.
    I tried a few different brands of shields Medela and Advent and I can't remember the other one but found them so difficult to use and just extra fluffing around.

    I want to try the bf but I am happy to express too to try and keep the supply up as much as possible. I just had supply issues last time so hoping that my supply will be ok this time. I was lucky yo get about 20-40mls after about 30 minutes of pumping. It is very helpful to know that you also have the spectra S2 and that it is awesome. I have heard so many good reviews. The lactation consultant said it is heaps better than my Medela Mini Electric that I had. It is also a double pump so will be a lot faster yày.
    Your story has certainly made me feel more confident - THANK YOU

    You should be stocked! I am stoked for you! You should be very proud of your little man 😀

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    Get in contact with your local Australian Breastfeeding Association. I have found them to be invaluable source of support and information. Good luck.

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    I have flat nipples but never even knew there was such a thing prior to my first being born

    I was a little complacent with him latching and ended up with nearly detached excruciating nipples It took about a month for them to heal and I just persevered through the pain with no expressing or shields.

    Anyway I went on to feed him for 2.5 years and his sister for another 2.5 years with no dramas at all.

    my advice is to pay close attention to every single latch in the early weeks and to always get the Special K mouth happening.

    you sound like you are preparing yourself amazingly well! Good luck

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    When I saw an LC at 5 weeks with DS (by that stage latching was perfect with DD, though I've had low supply with both) she tried a few positions with me first , including reclined. I'd tried it at home and knew it didn't work. Nothing to do with the posterior tongue tie that she then diagnosed. More because my milk takes about 2-3 minutes to let down plus is then pretty slow to come out unless (by some miracle) I'm engorged. So laying back a little meant an uphill battle for my milk.


    In the early days it worked best if I lay DS on a pillow on my lap and lowered boob into his mouth so gravity was working with me.

    So just see how you go, try lots of different hold/positions and see what works best for you and bub as we're all a bit unique!

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    I have flat nipples and have just started weaning Dd who is 6 weeks old off nipple shields. I thought I'd need to use them until we finished breastfeeding all together but now that she is bigger it seems a lot easier to get her to latch correctly, It sometimes takes a few tries to get her on properly but once she most of the time she stays there.

    I also think I'm less stressed and have more confidence than in the beginning and that is helping, especially because my nipples have healed, they were quite cracked and grazed in the beginning until I used the shields and now they seem to be a little tougher.


 

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