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    Quote Originally Posted by DT75 View Post
    You have said it yourself- it's not a real word.
    How you feel about it and what it means is irrelevant to the fact that it is not a real word.

    And guess is a synonym to estimate. Guess doesn't just mean a stab in the dark. It is something done without sufficient information, not no information.
    @turquoisecoast did say it's not a real word, true, but she went on to qualify that it is a portmanteau, which is a legitimate part of our language.

    I get that words can annoy us indiscriminately, just like I get annoyed by names that aren't names.

    I do think there is more of a distinction between guess and estimate though - the same colour spectrum but not the same shade if you know what I mean.

    To me the difference is something like - taking a guess that there will be 500 people at the gig you're going to tonight compared to actually being at the gig, counting the number of people in one row and the number of rows and therefore estimating the number of people from that information.

    And if you've ever taught primary age kids, then yes, a guess can absolutely be a stab in the dark :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    To me the difference is something like - taking a guess that there will be 500 people at the gig you're going to tonight compared to actually being at the gig, counting the number of people in one row and the number of rows and therefore estimating the number of people from that information.
    Well put. In my job I do a lot of estimating of prices and quantities. My clients are happy to pay for estimating. I'm sure they would pay a lot less if they thought I was guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT75 View Post
    It's not a word. Guess and estimate are the same thing, so using both just negates the meaning. Like "irregardless".
    "Irregardless" makes me violent!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turquoisecoast View Post
    well no I disagree. if it's in the Oxford then it's a real word. it's not nonsensical. read the definition, it's a midpoint between a guess and an estimate.

    and you wouldn't say irregardless, you'd say irrespective.
    Turquoisecoast, honey...please use capitals at the start of your sentences. It's causing me grief

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    @turquoisecoast did say it's not a real word, true, but she went on to qualify that it is a portmanteau, which is a legitimate part of our language.

    I get that words can annoy us indiscriminately, just like I get annoyed by names that aren't names.

    I do think there is more of a distinction between guess and estimate though - the same colour spectrum but not the same shade if you know what I mean.

    To me the difference is something like - taking a guess that there will be 500 people at the gig you're going to tonight compared to actually being at the gig, counting the number of people in one row and the number of rows and therefore estimating the number of people from that information.

    And if you've ever taught primary age kids, then yes, a guess can absolutely be a stab in the dark :-)
    I never said it wasn't a legitimate part of our language. New words occur everyday.

    However, guesstimate is just redundant. Say guess or estimate- whether you feel they mean different things (in which case things are covered) or similar (so either will do), the word becomes redundant.

    (Names that aren't names annoy me too!)

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