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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberleygal1 View Post
    I don't get how people let these bullies affect them this way.
    Obviously Charlotte had depression issues to begin with.
    It.is.not.the.victims.fault.

    No one CHOOSES to be deeply affected by bullying. No one *wants* to be bullied so viciously that it becomes part of their depression. No one *lets* it affect them like this. This is akin to saying "I don't know why she let her skin bruise like that after they punched her". It's involuntary. Words can hurt us just as much as physical acts. They can cut so deeply. It's well and good to wonder why she didn't stop using twitter but why the hell should she? For every troll that harangued her there were messages of support and love too. Should she, or anyone, forgo this support and let the trolls win?
    She had so much trauma in her life and struggled so hard- these Internet bullies were just one factor in a series of things that must have pushed her over the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peanutmonkey View Post
    This is basically the same as saying kids shouldn't be affected by bullies. Some people are strong enough to ignore it some aren't.

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    True...and not to mention the things people say don't just disappear when you walk away. Words can haunt you for a long time after they have been read or heard. So no I don't believe she would have been any better off. Everything that was said to and about her was probably on her mind for so long to the point where she probably started believing it. I know I'm a stronger person these days but the bullying I experienced in high school can still upset me and some of the things said to me still play on my mind. How about instead of people having to swallow it and walk away, bullies actually have consequences and be held accountable for the hurt they cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samilia View Post
    Most trolls are teenagers too that really are little ****s and things they say should be disregarded because they are only kids.
    The most disgusting internet trolls I have seen are grown men and women NOT kids, who stalk and harass others online. People like this think they are so brave, think they are so clever hiding behind their computer screens when all they are is pathetic bullies! They are even lower than IRL bullies because they don't have the guts to say it to the victims face, they hide behind their computer/smart device.

    It is easy to say walk away but in reality when it is everywhere, so in your face it would be hard to get away.

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    Sorry I have to add something else to my last comment too.

    If you are being told over and over that you are worthless, shouldnt be alive, etc, it slowly breaks down your self worth. Hear it long enough and you start to believe it. Even in a person in good mental health it has the potential to do a lot of damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samilia View Post
    This is really sad and I don't understand how people can be so nasty.

    In saying that though, why didn't she just get off the computer, close her account, shut down the computer or block people? It just seems strange that she would continue to read the troll comments.

    Most trolls are teenagers too that really are little ****s and things they say should be disregarded because they are only kids.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a dig at her actions or how she delt with her problems,, but Even when she had an interview with 60 minutes, they said to her "Charlotte, why don't you just stopping reading the comments and you won't be upset by them" and she really had no answer, she couldn't help but read them. It's almost like she wanted to hear it all.

    Again, im not picking at her and I too am very saddened by this.. There just a lot of missing pieces that just don't make sense.

    I got bullied my WHOLE school life. I had msn and that was a way of being bullied back then. I ended up blocking my bullies. My mum always said why go on looking for trouble (her words to me).


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    I know that with me, my personality, I guess, stuff gets to me; even after the computer has been turned off. That doesn't "fix" it, with people already suffering from anxiety/depression. So I get how, even though it was all seemingly *just internet trolls*, it can affect a person on a deeper level.
    It's easy to say ignore it, switch off, block people etc.. but that can only be done after the bullying, after the the damage has already been done. Some people can't just "shake it off".

    I have not been able to stop thinking about this poor woman. I can't believe it.

    RIP Charlotte.

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    Regarding the comment "why didn't she turn off her computer" (or what ever it was) can be a valid question in that there is absolute no judgement or liability placed on her for not doing so (the onus is still 100% with the people spewing such vile), just a curiosity as to why someone would actively read the horrible, toxic messages people left for her. I don't know if that's what happened (I didn't even know who she was, I had to google) so I don't know her story and am not pretending to. I can only assume that she did and in the interest of clarity - I am not suggesting any amount of judgement / blame / responsibility on her.

    As a former mod who was involved in unveiling a number of trolls and highly dishonest posters, there are some real whackos out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    Regarding the comment "why didn't she turn off her computer" (or what ever it was) can be a valid question in that there is absolute no judgement or liability placed on her for not doing so (the onus is still 100% with the people spewing such vile), just a curiosity as to why someone would actively read the horrible, toxic messages people left for her. I don't know if that's what happened (I didn't even know who she was, I had to google) so I don't know her story and am not pretending to. I can only assume that she did and in the interest of clarity - I am not suggesting any amount of judgement / blame / responsibility on her.

    As a former mod who was involved in unveiling a number of trolls and highly dishonest posters, there are some real whackos out there.
    I think the fact that she was in the public eye made it worse for her as unlike you and I she couldn't just turn off the computer and forget about it- she didn't have the luxury of anonymity once she logged off, the trolls and haters were still there, watching and commenting on her every move.


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    I hate the phrase, "Why didn't he/she *just* do/not do..." whatever it is people are talking about. It instantly attempts to simplify a very complicated issue, and it's just insensitive and showing a lack of compassion or empathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyMummy View Post
    I hate the phrase, "Why didn't he/she *just* do/not do..." whatever it is people are talking about. It instantly attempts to simplify a very complicated issue, and it's just insensitive and showing a lack of compassion or empathy.
    It depends how it is presented. It could mean 'she should have just done/not done ABC' which I agree puts a level of blame on the victim and simplyfies a complex issue. If it is presented as meaning 'I wonder what drives a person to do/not do ABC?' then it is curiousity of the human psyche and there is no judgement associated to it.

    Nevertheless, it is a sad, tragic situation and I hope her family and friends take some comfort from the outpouring of public sympathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaryGirl View Post
    The most disgusting internet trolls I have seen are grown men and women NOT kids, who stalk and harass others online. People like this think they are so brave, think they are so clever hiding behind their computer screens when all they are is pathetic bullies! They are even lower than IRL bullies because they don't have the guts to say it to the victims face, they hide behind their computer/smart device.

    It is easy to say walk away but in reality when it is everywhere, so in your face it would be hard to get away.
    This.
    Charlotte was open about her history of body image issues and depression along with the abuse and other issues, which considering the industry she was in, made her pretty bl00dy brave to speak up about it. Yet from what I remember the worst of the trolls were adults, and attacked her on the very things she struggled with.
    As a grown woman, being viciously told day after day by your peers that you should kill yourself, thank God you dont have kids, or that you are ugly and old, would destroy even the most confident woman.

    How utterly heartbroken she must have been

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