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    Just heard on the news that the dad (if you can can him that) had warrants out for his arrest that the police had not yet executed. Part of that was due to looking at child porn on a public computer.

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    Not sure when I said, I blame the mother. ??
    I wholly agree the courts do not always have the best interest of the child in mind. They try to make it 'fair' by giving both parents rights. Rights that some parents do not deserve.
    Personally myself I would do anything to protect my children and as I said before, someone I didn't trust I would not give the benefit of the doubt to be around my child, father or not.
    Of course I feel sorry for the woman.
    Who knows the real truth? But the media are painting it as another story of people getting complacent with dangerous situations.
    I feel she was wrong to trust him at all, any time or anywhere. That's my opinion and I don't have to apologise for it, not does it mean I have no compassion for her loss.

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    I think it's important to remember, when wondering why this mother allowed access, that family courts are at a federal level whereas things like AVOs are dealt with by state police. So a federal family law order can over ride a state AVO. The two courts don't always issue orders in accordance with each other, so sometimes a parent will find their hands effectively tied. Police saying they felt this was an inevitable event shows just how great the divide can be. The family court system is a bit of a joke. It takes ages to get anything through, it's inconsistent, it can be very biased, it's prohibitively expensive and full of grey areas, as anyone that has been through it can attest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Just heard on the news that the dad (if you can can him that) had warrants out for his arrest that the police had not yet executed. Part of that was due to looking at child porn on a public computer.
    VicPark, I just saw this as well.
    I'm angry that this man had not been taken into custody already, as he should have been.

    This man had multiple arrest warrants issued for him, in relation to DV against Rosie Batty, as well as the child porn that VicPark mentioned. He had assualted her a number of times, and threatened to kill her.

    I feel so truly sorry for her, as she felt it was OK for Luke to speak to his dad for a couple of minutes, as Luke had asked to, and they were in a public place with people around. She believed that it would be ok, as he had never threatened Luke, only herself.

    What a tragic situation, for all involved

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdgirl View Post
    Not sure when I said, I blame the mother. ??
    I wholly agree the courts do not always have the best interest of the child in mind. They try to make it 'fair' by giving both parents rights. Rights that some parents do not deserve.
    Personally myself I would do anything to protect my children and as I said before, someone I didn't trust I would not give the benefit of the doubt to be around my child, father or not.
    Of course I feel sorry for the woman.
    Who knows the real truth? But the media are painting it as another story of people getting complacent with dangerous situations.
    I feel she was wrong to trust him at all, any time or anywhere. That's my opinion and I don't have to apologise for it, not does it mean I have no compassion for her loss.
    By saying she was wrong to trust him, you are laying blame on her. If court orders said she was to allow him access at certain times eg cricket practice, she had to follow that. Her son asked her for a few minutes more with him. That would not have rung any alarm bells that something so terrible was imminent. She did nothing wrong. She has to live with the fact that saying no to his request may or may not have lead to a different outcome. Laying blame on her helps no one and is misplaced anyone. The person to blame is the father. Whatever drove him to it- drugs, mental illness, revenge or just plain evil- the responsibility for his actions lies with him- not her.

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    Yes definitely something was amiss.
    I find that the police said that absolutely revolting.
    If it was known how potentially dangerous he was, why wasn't he on supervised visits?
    The courts have a lot to answer for. I've only been through a small amount to do with visitation and as I said, it's all about being fair to the parent without residency. They don't want to know the actual story, it just has to appear fair.
    In our case I felt my children's well being was completely over looked just so that it was fair to their father who in the end was so slack didn't even follow his own requests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamaof4 View Post
    VicPark, I just saw this as well.
    I'm angry that this man had not been taken into custody already, as he should have been.

    This man had multiple arrest warrants issued for him, in relation to DV against Rosie Batty, as well as the child porn that VicPark mentioned. He had assualted her a number of times, and threatened to kill her.

    I feel so truly sorry for her, as she felt it was OK for Luke to speak to his dad for a couple of minutes, as Luke had asked to, and they were in a public place with people around. She believed that it would be ok, as he had never threatened Luke, only herself.

    What a tragic situation, for all involved
    It gets worse and worse as more details are coming to light. Sickening. It's hard not to feel this family was severely let down by a number of authorities.

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    What I'm saying is why did she feel he was trustworthy.
    I can't be bothered trying to explain my thoughts any further, think what you will of what I've said.
    In any situations there are many people and circumstances to 'blame'.
    When things go wrong we will always wonder was there more that could have been done.
    I'm sure she will question that choice for the rest of her life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Just heard on the news that the dad (if you can can him that) had warrants out for his arrest that the police had not yet executed. Part of that was due to looking at child porn on a public computer.
    Hmmm, well now I know why my heart in this particular case was screaming "evil" and for some reason the mental illness episode was not for me to go by, when I have always been an advocate for understanding the complexities of delusional episodes as being not an excuse, but a factor in these types of instances.
    I don't think he cracked. Evil does exist.

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    I recently saw a story on Dr Phil where a woman was shot in the leg by her husband and he shot himself. The courts in the US took her children away from her because they deemed that she was negligent by allowing her children to continue to be with the dad/husband and not leaving to protect them. Dr Phil said he would do everything in his power to help the woman get her children back as she was a victim of DV and not the perpetrator. The story was very sad.

    Makes me think of this story and those who say the mum didn't protect her boy. It's not her fault. Not in any way. She's is a victim. She thought a public place would be a safe space for her son to see his daddy. There is no way that anyone could see the future and see that this could happen.

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