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    Default Posterior tongue tie

    After some advice and support please, no judgement as I have done the best I can with the circumstances. This is a long read!

    I have an almost 8 week old DD. In hospital, feeding was going well (albeit painful! and with nipple damage) but dd gained weight beautifully and no issues. Fast forward to 2 weeks old, and I had got to the stage that my nipples, particularly my right were so damaged I couldn't feed without crying, DD was taking 1 1/2 hrs to feed most times and was still hungry after, it was a battle at each feed and we'd have to top her up with expressed milk and then with formula and then the cycle would begin again an hour later. Because she wasn't draining my right breast properly, I developed mastitis and my supply dwindled to about 5-10ml from that side. I was becoming depressed and began resenting and dreading each feed.

    I struggled through til 3-4 weeks by expressing on the right side and feeding on the left side to try and build my supply up again. At 3.5 weeks I stopped breastfeeding completely and turned to expressing so dd was getting 80% expressed and 20% formula. By switching to bottle feeding, it saved my sanity and my nipples, and I recovered from the mastitis and my supply returned.

    I saw a lactation consultant at 2.5 weeks, who said my technique was fine, and she diagnosed posterior tongue tie. I was reluctant to get it snipped as my dd has other health issues, and I didn't want to put her through more trauma, especially when I was doing okay with expressing and bottle feeding. I also wanted a second opinion from my paed. A child health nurse also just saw dd crying and thought she had a tongue tie straight away due to her heart shaped tongue. I saw my GP and he was noncommittal. We saw the paed last week for her 6 week check, and he basically said it was nonsense and she doesn't have it.

    So now I'm confused, and lost without a reason as to why breastfeeding didn't work. I'd love to get back to feeding, but now think I've left it too late. I feel like a bit of a failure, even though dd is still getting breast milk, just via a bottle, not directly from me. If my technique was fine, and she doesn't have a tongue tie, why didn't feeding work for us?

    So I was wondering, what would you do? Go get it snipped even tho dr said she doesn't have one? I just don't want to cause her any more pain and I also don't want her to have an unnecessary procedure if she doesn't need it. I've made an appointment with a dr who snips them but I'm unsure whether to go thru with it.

    I'm also worried about speech and teeth issues down the track which is the other reason im considering snipping so at least I have peace of mind.

    Any advice/thoughts would be appreciated!

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    Firstly you have done above and behind what some women can, to keep bf, so never feel otherwise about that.

    My last son seemed to be a lil tongue tied, been though the gp said no. His tongue was much shorter and seemed nearly heart seeped on the end. Looking at babies on google with tongue tie, he looked the same.
    He had a strange sloppy latch for bf, and my nipples were sore for longer than normal after he was born.
    I personally wouldn't snip it if she's feeding fine and gaining weight. It might not have been completely the issue with the bf trouble. Sometimes babies just can't pick it up.

    Expressing and using bottles is wonderful. If you are happy with it, that's great. I know a lady who did that for the first 12 months with her son.

    My son is now 2 and talks very well, never had a problem with anything really.

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    Oh also it won't hurt to try bf her again, any time.
    Have you ever used nipple shields? Maybe she would take those better to start if she's used a bottle. They can be used wisely and successfully for short periods.
    Good luck 😊

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    Dr Terry Russell at Russell Medical centre at Macgregor snipped my baby's posterior tongue tie after another dr who supposedly specialises in tongue ties told me he didn't have one. He bloody well did and it was impacting on his whole head shape and his feeding capabilities.
    Id make the appt. Its a painless, bloodless procedure that's over in just a couple of minutes. The best (and worst) thing that can happen is that Terry will tell you she doesn't have a tie. You have come this far and been so determined. It's one more step and could be just what you need to get bf'ing back on track

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    Thanks it's nice to hear from someone who's LO had what looked like a tongue tie but didn't and had no lasting issues. The images on google look exactly like DD's tongue as well.

    I've tried nipple shield, but not sure if I'm just using them the wrong way, but dd never seemed to get the hang of it. They always seemed too big for her mouth? I've tried feeding again since, but she just gets frustrated and my nipples feel like they're on fire after it

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    I'd get it done. Lactation consultants are often much more educated in this area than GPs. My DD1 had hers snipped so that it didn't interfere with speech. It's over so very fast and no, you are not too late to get your bub back on the breast, especially as you are still lactating. Get her back on ASAP

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    Personally, I'd get it snipped. It changed both my girls for the better. It felt like i was feeding a different baby, it made that much difference.

    The procedure is super quick and I don't think it caused much discomfort to my girls. It took the doctor about 30 seconds to do and they cried for about a minute each.

    My girls both had anterior tongue ties though, not posterior, so I'm not sure what the difference would be. This is just my experience.

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    Thanks marepoppin. That's the person I've made the appt with.

    If you don't mind me asking, what do you mean it was affecting your baby's whole head shape? Did you find it made a huge difference?

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    My boy had one which was stopping me from breast feeding. We went to the dr at 2 weeks and got it snipped, it took a couple of minutes and my boy didn't even cry. Because there were no blood vessels in it it was over so quick. It's made such a massive difference to feeding and my boys gaining weight like crazy

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    I could have written this exact post myself OP!
    After asking 8 people - midwifes, lactation consultants & the pediatrician my son was finally found to have a posterior tongue & lip tie. I developed mastitis & was hospitalized for it as he refused my right breast. I also dreaded feeds & nearly gave up. We went to Enhance Dental on Park Rd Milton (terry Russell who marepoppin referred to was also recommended to us) & they were great. It was over in 5 mins & they used laser treatment. Feeding is now enjoyable - no pain! I totally recommend having it done.



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