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    Just having a random thought, anyone have an opinion on "natural" ivf cycles and poor responders? I asked my FS yesterday why it is that I only get one or two follicles every time and she said: it's because you have hardly any left (ouch) and most of the ones that are left don't have the get up and go to come to the surface. At my scan, the doctor (not my FS) asked me if this was a natural cycle. After seeing the one follie.

    Made me start thinking about whether it would be worth looking at - much cheaper I think, no or minimal drugs, still produces one follicle, and perhaps a better quality egg that hasn't been induced by drugs? Dunno, I bet if I ask my FS she'll say, not worth it or something. Might ask anyway.

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    Hi Kelly, wouldn't be a bad idea to ask. I remember reading about mini ivf on dr google but was only offered in the us I thought. They must do it here now ?

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    Seems like a good question to ask of Dr Lynne as well. I know with a FET that natural is better if you can do it without needing the drugs... But some women need the stimming to bump up oestrogen as well I thought? So might be something there to consider.

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    That comment re poor responders is interesting - I'm a woeful responder, but have an AMH of 12.9. ... Maybe they are all lazy little devils 😊

    I reckon go for it with the epu and good luck! Xx

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    Thanks Vix.. Yeah it seems there are poor responders like me due to declined egg reserves and poor responders like you who have pretty good reserves but who just don't respond to meds. Go figure on the body/fertility, it seems to be a mysterious thing. How did I fall pregnant 18 months ago without trying if my reserves are practically nil. So much they don't seem to know and this group - over 40 with high FSH and low AMh issues have to be the largest group seeking ART surely - and yet they cannot help us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly70 View Post
    Thanks Vix.. Yeah it seems there are poor responders like me due to declined egg reserves and poor responders like you who have pretty good reserves but who just don't respond to meds. Go figure on the body/fertility, it seems to be a mysterious thing. How did I fall pregnant 18 months ago without trying if my reserves are practically nil. So much they don't seem to know and this group - over 40 with high FSH and low AMh issues have to be the largest group seeking ART surely - and yet they cannot help us.
    I sometimes wonder about the economies of scale with IVF research and development. The R&D I imagine is probably skewed towards general improvement in IVF rather than looking at specific fertility problems because IVF is on average a one size fits all solution. It's a pity it's so driven by market values because I think the science would improve faster if they shared data rather than competition between clinics and research programs.

    I read on another forum about a kiwi study that was testing discarded cells left around the outside of a retrieved egg and using them to predict success but who knows when we will see that benefit here...

    Hopefully some of the new low cost providers getting in the game at least start to bring the prices down.

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    @Kelly70 are you going for it tomorrow - want to wish you luck and know when to send out loads of positive energy for you.

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    Thanks Jem, yes am going for it but have zero expectation from it. Feel like I have no other choice because if I don't try, I have no chance at all. EPU at 8:20am. Trying to maintain positivity but it's hard!! And I am not the gorgeous Biscotti!

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    Good luck for tomorrow Kelly, I have a good feeling about this one.

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    Good luck for tomorrow @Kelly70

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