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    I would def recommend getting a work up for immune/nk cell issues. Just to be on the safe side.

    My immune specialist says I have antinuclear antibodies, according to the book, is your body baby friendly, this is easiest described as when I get pregnant/have a transfer my body has an immune reaction (like when you cut yourself and it gets all read and inflamed). I also have slightly elevated natural killer cells in my blood and uterus. When we get pregnant our T cells camouflage the presence of the baby (as it is half you and half your partner/donor). In my case I have more nk cells than T cells (or they are more dominant) which means it looks at the embryo and sees it as a foreign body and kills it. This can happen before implantation or after.

    So it would have been a struggle for me to get pregnant naturally/on ivf anyway. I wish I had done the testing earlier.

    Obviously what I have described above is paraphrasing and simplifying it, but that's the easiest way I can describe it.

    Not all FS believe in its affect on pregnancies though.

    I hear you all on not watching shows and friends who complain about their kids although in my case not everyone knows that I am trying. I just find it too difficult to tell them about the BFN's, especially a friend who has had 2 children in recent years using IVF

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    Thanks Kelly, the chemical was difficult but now I know a BFP might not be a BFP (I'll still keep poasing though, I can't help it). The embryo impregnated anyway and that's something. I want an 8 cell on day three, I had two 6 cells last time and things seemed to go downhill from there.
    I am hopeful but I'm not sure how many more I will go through, so I'm expecting it to get harder with each cycle. My 3rd and 4th cycle were so hard emotionally. Kudos to you girls who have done multiple cycles.

    Oh Vixjc that's really sad about christmas. I hope you get your christmas baby this year or at least have one in the oven.

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    Most of my girlfriends are younger and about half have young babies. One of my best girlfriends and I fell pregnant around the same time (hers on her 2nd cycle of ivf at the age of 34, she had other issues). We both had bleeding the same week, around 11 weeks.. Both went in for our scans and I just knew odds were that one of us would lose our babies. Unfortunately that was me which was a killer at 42 because I thought it was prob my only chance to be a mum. I then had to get through the rest of my friends pregnancy, the birth (our due dates were the same).. Not easy.

    So here I am anyway, so thankful to even have this chance to try

    Just a little frustrating at the moment though having to wait another couple of months for a donor.. I just so want to get started and finding it hard to shake the egg timer feeling with each month that passes. Cross your fingers for me the donor wait list moves faster than expected!!

    Hope you're all having a lovely chilled weekend x

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    Kelly - it must be so frustrating! I can only imagine how exciting it is going to be once you finally get the call! How does it work? Do you get a vial and they use it all for cycle (as in defrost it and then it can't be used any more) or do you get a vial and they defrost a bit each cycle? It would be awful to go through this wait for each cycle - not that you'll need more than once given you're our going to be our first time fairytale When I was in Greece I noticed this constant ****** of hot fella's down a particular corridor (I swear it seemed they were all 6"2 and built like a Hemsworth!)... turned out they were the sperm donors ...

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    Wow I so want to be everyone's first time fairytale vix! But I'm realistic as well in terms of my age. Just more curious than anything to see how I respond to the drugs in the first cycle.

    At melb ivf you pay one fee upfront for the donor, then that donor can be used for up to 4 cycles without having to pay again or wait thank god. I'm not sure if he just donates once and they freeze it or if he donates each time (something I should ask actually).

    At Monash they do it differently - you pay as you go for each cycle, which kinda makes more sense as if you fall pregnant first cycle, you've not really got your money's worth so to speak

    I wouldn't mind myself a tall dark handsome hemsworth built donor!!

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    That first cycle is such a trial run. As I understand it, they often start you on Gonal f or Puregon at a dose of about 300, then if you need longer to stim than the 10 days of meds they've provided, you'll get more Gonal f or puregon and they'll schedule another scan in another couple of days depending on how you go. If it doesn't get you to egg retrieval (i.e. not 4 follicles or more) they cancel the cycle and next time they up the dose, max is 450. If they talk about putting you on either of those meds, I would ask whether Elonva is an option. I understand Elonva tends to have a better result for older women (I felt totally normal on it). They may not want to give you Elonva in the first instance until they've seen how you react to FSH, but its worth asking - better one injection for 7 days, than 7 injections over 7 days!
    I'll be on progynova, clexane, astrix, progesterone, and prednisolone. The only one I haven't tried before is prednisolone but they tell me its the same family as dexamethasone so hopefully no side effects for me!
    Bring on April

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    Gosh Vix you really are a bit of a walking chemist - certainly across all the drugs and terms. I guess I'll become like that too, but right now it all sounds a little crazy.

    Will be SO excited to just get started.. It really can't come soon enough, the days are dragging.

    Worked out my cycles and if the donor comes up early, I'll be starting early April.. Otherwise it'll be end of April! Aargh. At least we are about to hit March.

    Hugs to everyone - how you traveling Hels?

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    That is a lot of drugs Vix. Hope you are ok on it all.

    I picked mine up today, 125 Puregon with a click of Ovadrel every 3days which is also my trigger. Estimated EPU on the 13th of march I think.

    A friend of mine got preggers at xmas and I must admit I was jealous of her natural 'easy' pregnancy (even now I have had a child I still feel resentful, stupid I know). She's just had to terminate after finding out genetic problems at the 12 week scan and bloods. I just felt so devastated for her and her husband. A lot of my friends are having tough journeys to having kids, I guess the fact that we're all the very wrong side of 30 doesn't help. Its such a minefield this business and from the outside who would know...?

    Anyway, fingers crossed for us all that we have smooth journeys (from now on!) to parenthood, I hope your donor comes through ASAP Kelly. Fingers crossed for a Hemsworth

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    I totally agree - its a minefield! I'm always so happy for my friends when they get pregnant but I can't help but be a little resentful too, only because they don't recognise how damn lucky they are and how grateful they should be for the gift of natural conception! Last weekend I caught up with a girlfriend who was going to take the same path as you Kelly, she was 34 with an AMH of 1.2. Then she met the perfect man, he was happy to start trying within weeks of meeting her, they got pregnant on the second try, got married, had a dream pregnancy and she gave birth on her due date. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome! But sitting there for 2.5 hours while she babbled on about the baby and her labour and how it would have been tough for her to do ivf because the FS thought she was only going to get 10 eggs each cycle (she was planning on freezing some)... And now they are going to try straight away for baby 2 given her low amh. If they don't get pregnant immediately they'll just tell the FS they've tried for 6 months so they can start ivf straight away...

    So there was a couple of things there that did my head in (1) its rude not to ask a single non-perfunctory question about your friend over the course of 2.5hrs!!! No matter what cloud 9 you're on! (2) I'd give my left leg for 10 eggs on a cycle! Hell, I'd settle for 4! (3) Why - when you're a proven natural conceiver, would you rush into the hell of IVF?!?! Even with a low AMH, give it 3 or 4 months at least! Grrrr. It particularly sucked because this was one of the few friends I've actually told what we're doing and the problems I've had.

    As for the meds - I'm actually on less meds than last time. It was very confusing at first - 32 tablets (some vaginal some oral) and one injection a day. I was continually worried I'd swallow a pessary and insert a tablet Got used to it in the end. The steriod disrupted my sleep to start with, but otherwise the meds don't really affect me too much. Although the progynova was great for my skin And of course the Clexane bruises me like the devil! So no thin white tops for a while, but otherwise all good.

    4 more sleeps till hubby flies over for his sample... Kelly I really hope your donor comes up quick so we can both cycle early April together

    Have a good weekend ladies
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    Hi guys I'm doing ok but gripped by nausea and extreme tiredness. I have been sleeping mist of today just ventured out earlier for a


 

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