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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    What in normal shampoo is toxic? Genuine question, I never realised it was that bad.
    I think sodium laurel sulphate isn't meant to be that great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    What in normal shampoo is toxic? Genuine question, I never realised it was that bad.
    Sodium Lauryl/Laureth Sulfate (SLS/SLES)
    Dioxane
    Diethanolamine or DEA.
    Propylene Glycol.
    Parabens.

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    How are they toxic though?

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    From DH >
    'Sodium laurel sulphate is a standard surfactant used in many products but have fallen out of favour with personal/body products as it has irritant issues with some people. Sodium laurel ether sulphate is more favoured but that can also cause some irritation for some people. Apparently it's in the vast majority of body washes, shampoos etc. Anything with lower irritant levels is apparently more specialised lines.'
    (creative spelling ^^ my own)

    DH is an Industrial Chemist with 20+ years experience specliasing somewhat in cleaning products. He is the person who ensures products are blended and made to specifications. (My lotion and potion man!!) In his current and previous roles he has been responsible for production of products such as body washes, shampoos, various creams and similar items.

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    Thanks Bee. Does that make it toxic though? Genuinely not being argumentative just trying to understand. I consider toxic making someone really sick, not irritating the skin. Is it a toxin or is it just a foaming additive that happens to irritate some people's skin?

    DH got me this foot pack for xmas and it said no parabens. Are they so bad too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Thanks Bee. Does that make it toxic though? ...
    DH got me this foot pack for xmas and it said no parabens. Are they so bad too?
    No idea. DH has his head buried in a wood turning video at the moment (party on DH!!). I know he would say "anything's toxic in big enough quantities" and punctuate with an eye roll. I'll ask his thoughts later... He's can be a little blunt about it sometimes though. I think he told me once that Eucalyptus oil was regarded as a "dangerous goods" item over certain quantities but not sure why. (If an item is marked as 'dangerous goods' it has to be transported and labelled with various clauses and restrictions.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    No idea. DH has his head buried in a wood turning video at the moment (party on DH!!).
    lol I have a nerd husband too. They are the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    Links to cancer, fertility issues, early puberty in girls. Some of them mimic oestrogen. It doesn't stop at shampoos though. Even baby wipes contain an ingredient that disrupts hormones and can contribute to cancer and fertility problems especially in girls.

    All of that is enough for me to say no way!!
    Is there reputable studies showing this? Are they confirmed causative links or simple correlations? Surely these items are not made containing levels of such things that are sufficient to cause harm or wouldn't we all be sick?

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