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    And biologically speaking, women's breasts ARE built for breast feeding - I don't understand how that is an offensive comment to make, nor is it sexist - it's fact?

    I didn't see the interview, so can't comment on specifically, but if I take the comments in this thread from ppl who did see it at face value, Then I don't see anything wrong with what she's said -- that's her opinion on parenting -- and it's ok to be different to yours, what's the big deal? This all seems like a bit in an over reaction???

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Many cc and CIO parents do close the door and leave their kids to cry?

    That's also my understanding of cc and CIO?
    There is a lot more to it than that. It involved (for me) only ever leaving DD to self settle for a minute or two before going in to her- I waited outside the door- but Peaches Geldof made it sound like a neglectful, unloving practice; it's the exact opposite,that is what annoyed me about the interview.
    I absolutely respect and understand that CC is not for everyone. That's cool. But she likened any other form of parenting (besides AP) as "wanting to keep yoyr baby as far away as possible"..

    "Life Is Ours, We Live It Our Way".

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    Sounds like she touched a nerve.
    I don't have a problem with anything she said. CC and CIO is leaving your baby to cry no matter which way you want to put it.

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    Well, no. It isn't. I have a thread of my struggles with sleep related issues on here somewhere where I basically kept a diary of my CC journey. Anyway, DD was never left to cry- she whinged, sooked etc, but was never dumped in her (well my room, she still shares my room) room in distress.
    I have a feeling you think you know better (cos you were there, right?) so I am happy to agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lincolns mummy View Post
    Sounds like she touched a nerve.
    I don't have a problem with anything she said. CC and CIO is leaving your baby to cry no matter which way you want to put it.
    Actually, CC is helping them develop self-soothing mechanisms that will serve them well in adult life. Yes, you do leave the baby to cry, but not indefinitely, and not in a way that could convince the baby that you aren't there to provide and care for him or her.

    Perhaps if you don't have a problem with how she characterised it, you should find out more about it.
    Last edited by duncan_bayne; 22-01-2014 at 10:15. Reason: Clarified CC vs CIO

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    No matter which way you chose to parent, someone does the opposite, no matter which method you talk about, you will offend someone who's nerve has been touched. You literally cannot please every mother.
    THe amount of awful anti-AP threads, comments, opinions, and articles I have seen thrown around, not just here, but everywhere in my parenting life, has been enormous. If I post a for, article, I get slammed for being anti the opposite, which really isnt entirely correct, sometimes I am just for something that I chose to do, yanno?
    I like Peaches, I think she appears to be such a loving, kind and gentle Mum, and its lovely to see a celebrity talking about AP in a positive light, rather than just denegrating it as being chained to your baby, and how poor your husband must be to be missing out on sex because of cosleeping blah blah.
    I understand that she may not have said what she was trying to say in a way that showed she was talking about her personal opinion, but we have all been guilty of that one. It really is a minefield this parenting bizzo.
    As for CIO, it is exactly walking off and letting your baby cry itself to sleep, the CIO stands for Cry It Out. CC is a form of that, but far more gentle, I understand that, and they are both quite different from each other, but are from the same family. Its not something I have ever been able to do, as it doesnt feel right or natrual TO ME.
    As for women's bodies, well, biologicly speaking, yes they are built for having babies and breastfeeding them, we are mammals. Luckily we are also human and are able to do far more than "just" that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey'sMummy View Post
    And biologically speaking, women's breasts ARE built for breast feeding - I don't understand how that is an offensive comment to make, nor is it sexist - it's fact?
    Exactly. Anytime there is a thread on here about BF in public nearly every comment states breasts are for BF... Why is it all of a sudden offensive when Peaches says it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncan_bayne View Post
    Actually, CC is helping them develop self-soothing mechanisms that will serve them well in adult life. Yes, you do leave the baby to cry, but not indefinitely, and not in a way that could convince the baby that you aren't there to provide and care for him or her.

    Perhaps if you don't have a problem with how she characterised it, you should find out more about it.
    Exactly.
    There's a huge difference between leaving a baby to cry vs self settle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LotusMum View Post
    No matter which way you chose to parent, someone does the opposite, no matter which method you talk about, you will offend someone who's nerve has been touched. You literally cannot please every mother.
    Here's a related question. Why do people get so emotional about parenting in this fashion?

    I've had this conversation with a few of my friends, who were hesitant to offer advice in case I took offense.

    IMO, advice about parenting is like any other kind of advise. Accept it politely, disagree with it or agree with it politely, absorb any of it that seems right, and disregard the rest.

    And yet ... some people take any constructive criticism of their parenting style (or even the outcomes) as some sort of mortal insult.

    Here's the thing: if you're not abusing or neglecting your child, it actually isn't that important how you go about parenting. Research suggests that it's impossible to determine, from adult outcomes, what parenting style was used

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    That's the problem though. People assume that you leave your baby in their cot, turn the lights off, close the door, walk out and leave them to cry hysterically to the point they can hardly breathe.
    That's NOT how you do it! That's not how I've done it. I've never let DS and DD cry hysterically. There's a huge difference between a cry and a whinge/protest. Wah... Pause... Wah... Pause for a minute.. Wah. DD does this some nights when trying to fall asleep and she's out within 5 minutes. I've walked in there a few times to give her a pat on the bum and she's pretty much asleep. If she cries, I give her a cuddle, burp her, give her more milk, take her for a walk, do anything to calm her before putting her back down.

    I don't think men have these conversations. It's like a competition for women. I'm a better parent because I breastfeed. I'm a better parent because I bottle feed. I'm a better parent because my child sleeps with me. I'm a better parent because I've taught my child how to sleep.

    Guess what... WE'RE ALL AMAZING MUMS!!!! Unless you place your child in dangerous situations, smoke and drink til you're blind around your child etc.

    Peaches is the last person who should be passing judgement on anybody.

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