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    Quote Originally Posted by ReBeCcA7 View Post
    Yeah DH and I have talked about putting in a complaint. It was just so disappointing as we had both just started talking more positively about the birth and she just shat all over it.
    I know that in the end, so long as she is healthy and well it doesn't matter how she gets here and is what is keeping us going.
    We were, well particularly me, heartbroken at the prospect of a Caesar but what will be will be.
    I'm prepared to try acupuncture or the Webster technique if ob says its safe to do so, but I'm really not fond of the ECV. Freaked me out when I watch one being done! Then I will feel like I have tried what I can and if she is still breech, then I'll leave her be comfy and follow the advice is our ob. I trust her. She's got us through some bumps a long the way and has always been honest which we appreciate.
    How crap is that! The only thing that matters is the health and welfare of mum and bub, so whichever way is the safest for bub to get out is the best. And this all depends on personal circumstances. That might be cs.

    I'd be asking for a refund and wouldn't be returning, plus providing some feedback.

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    Rebecca I agree. Make a complaint and hopefully the lady having twins will make a complaint to.
    Up here there is no option for birthing a breech baby naturally even if you want to. Its just not allowed. Some hospitals will let you try but only if you go naturally.
    As for that other ****. I had a natural birth and still couldn't breastfed no matter what I tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReBeCcA7 View Post
    Feeling deflated. Had a horrendous first antenatal class yesterday. DH and I were amazed at how **** she made us feel. She was SO pro natural, drug free birth and stopping at nothing to achieve this. We explained having the potential for a c-sect due to GD and breech and she basically excluded us from the rest of the class from then on. One poor woman expecting twins asked about epidurals and was dismissed saying that plenty of women birth twins drug free so basically what's the big deal? Wtf!!! She said having a c-sect is not as meaningful, bad for bonding and breast feeding and women don't get the sense of achievement from it like a vaginal birth. So all in all I walked away with the messages of: drugs are bad, suck it up, your body is failing and you are failing your baby for not trying hard enough to have a vaginal birth. Are you for real?!

    Sorry for the rant but she had me in tears after and really put us off going back next week.

    Of course I want a vaginal birth and always imagined this would be the case. I hope we do get it but knowing our increased chances of not, I want to understand and accept it so I still have a positive birth experience, not walking away from it wishing I did it differently or that I failed as a woman and mother.
    Rebecca how bloody awful for you. I swear some people's brains aren't connected to their mouths! Way to make a group of nervous unsure women even more frightened. People like that shouldn't be allowed to present those kinds of classes. FWIW I've had 2 c-sections I breastfed DS1 for 6 weeks and DS2 for 15 months. So PPPPFFFFTTTTT to you stupid lady


    Me + DH = DS1 (6), DS2 (2) and #3 due September 8th

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    Rebecca...you hit the nail on the head when you said that as long as Mum and bubs are alive and well at the end of the process, then it has been a success!
    As a doctor, I am a big fan of drugs, monitors, and "machines that go ping"! I have worked in Theatre in Anaesthetics quite a bit, where the philosophy is "Drugs are good. More drugs are better!" However...if a woman wants to give birth without drugs then I will always respect her choice...I wont understand it, but I will respect it!
    Just disregard that particular midwife as an overzealous nutjob. Most midwives I have worked with are very sensible and practical.
    My daughter was breech until about 34 weeks, and therefore I was also looking at having to have a Caesar. I would definitely not have taken the risk of a breech vaginal delivery; way too risky in my opinion. I wasn't thrilled at the prospect of having a CS either, but a healthy baby was my most important outcome. As it turned out, we went camping and had to do some 4WDing to get there...and I think all the rough driving caused her to turn, because at 34-35 weeks she turned! I ended up being induced anyway at 39 weeks due to gestational diabetes, and infant size. She was 4.715kg (10lb6oz) at 39 weeks, but would have been even bigger if I had not been induced. And I loved the experience of being induced; it was so relaxed and civilised!!...So much better than when my son was born, which occurred at 2am. With my induction, I went in at 8am after having a shower and shaving my legs. I had an epidural, lots of lovely monitoring, and the midwives were very friendly and supportive. She was born at 2pm. Very civilised indeed.

    So please, just dismiss her as the nut she clearly is, and focus on the end-result...your healthy baby, and yourself.

    J xx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReBeCcA7 View Post
    Feeling deflated. Had a horrendous first antenatal class yesterday. DH and I were amazed at how **** she made us feel. She was SO pro natural, drug free birth and stopping at nothing to achieve this. We explained having the potential for a c-sect due to GD and breech and she basically excluded us from the rest of the class from then on. One poor woman expecting twins asked about epidurals and was dismissed saying that plenty of women birth twins drug free so basically what's the big deal? Wtf!!! She said having a c-sect is not as meaningful, bad for bonding and breast feeding and women don't get the sense of achievement from it like a vaginal birth. So all in all I walked away with the messages of: drugs are bad, suck it up, your body is failing and you are failing your baby for not trying hard enough to have a vaginal birth. Are you for real?!

    Sorry for the rant but she had me in tears after and really put us off going back next week.

    Of course I want a vaginal birth and always imagined this would be the case. I hope we do get it but knowing our increased chances of not, I want to understand and accept it so I still have a positive birth experience, not walking away from it wishing I did it differently or that I failed as a woman and mother.
    That is disgusting and the nurse/midwife should not be working in a field she isn't able to offer advice and education on views other then her own. I would definitely put in a complaint as she is not very suitable to do the job and I'd say others would if they feel the same as you as I'm sure they do. at our class the midwife gave all the pros and cons of all drugs but continued to say birth was safest without due to the complications drugs can cause, epidural always leave you higher risk of c section and isn't healthy for baby, induction leaves you higher risk of c section and complications to baby and if forceps are needed well c section is safest. I had my induction and epidural with no complications I had a safe birth, at least had read so much online to back my decisions and didn't need others forcing their views. DH had listened to her and thought it was her job to educate and inform so when she said epidurals should be a last resort he thought I should use gas and air as she'd told us that was best and this was her job so clearly knew more then me and induction was bad and was to make the ob's job easier not remove other risk for me. If they had been against forceps in the 80's my brother and I who. Were both. Very big would have caused my mum bigger damage then sustained as twice she was denied a c section as was the least safest option back then neither of us sustained trauma only poor mum.

    hope you don't see her when you go in for birth. Fingers crossed bubs turn they always can I was breech as well till day of birth and turned that morning spontaneously after failed trials with ob to turn me.

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    Sorry to butt in but I agree with wobbler about putting in a complaint about that midwife. Don't be afraid to put in a detailed complaint stating the date your class was, her name and an explanation in detail on what she was saying to the class. Ok vent over! Thanks for letting me butt in.

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    Oh no Rebecca, I am so sorry you had to put up with that load of bullsh¡t. Agreeing with the others and you have every right to complain.

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    Hi ladies.
    Had the 12 week scan today. Very happy with the results.
    Here's Blob ♥♥

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    Yep ladies I think we will complain. The more we think and talk about it the more annoyed we are. Not just for us but for others too. She kept going on about her time in PNG and how they have a 95% non epidural rate and how they have to walk to hospital etc. Not comparing one industrialized country with another there lady!!

    Anyway, I knew I could count on you lovelies to make me feel better and more sane. There were periods over the weekend where i thought may be I was being over sensitive and hormonal!

    I'm curious to know how the others were going in that class too. Will be interesting to see how many go to the next one. We certainly have contemplated giving it a miss!
    I agree. It should be run from fact not opinion.

    Those that did spinning babies exercises, how much/often did you do them? I'm not too confident with the inversions and is there any risk with cord then wrapping around their necks?

    J37 thanks for your story. Perhaps I should get my BiL to drive me around some place for a few hours each week and see what happens ;-)

    Pinkorblue congratulations!!!! It's so nice seeing your baby in its tiny human form. Exciting!

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    Hey ladies!!

    Sorry I have been MIA lately, I try to read and catch up when I can but boy you are a chatty bunch no way am I able to catch up on 82 pages!!!! :O plus my keyboard is having a spaz attack so its a bit hard.

    Hope you are all going well and hope all babies are growing nicely.

    Congrats to any newbies and congrats to the babies that have been born

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