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    I don't see the rape thing as victim blaming AT ALL. It's not a woman's fault she got raped no, but WHY go to areas where it is more likely to happen? (Eg running in a park at night on your own!!! Everyone knows seedy things happen in certain areas! Avoid them!)

    People also need to take responsibility for their own safety! Coming from South Africa I AVOIDED dodgy areas where there was a lot of crime or unlit streets etc. it doesn't protect you completely because of course there are evil humans EVERYWHERE, but its more likely to happen in these 'bad' areas.

    Not saying this particular park was bad, I'm more pointing out about adults taking care of themselves.

    As for these parents bring close by, that's not enough for ME. I personally would not let my guard down with my young kids. No I'm not a perfect parent but I know I wouldn't let my 2 young kids into a toilet block on their own. Even if there were a million families close by! That to me is even more of a reason to watch them as closely as possible as evil people are much more easily hidden amongst crowds.


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    I'm not blaming the victims. I'm saying their parents should take some responsibility for not supervising them.

    My response would be the same if a toddler got electrocuted, hit by a car or drowned. Where was the parent? This is why we supervise our children at all times. So bad things don't have a chance to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyMummy View Post
    It is pretty absurd to place some of the blame of a rape on the victim. Why is it in any way the victims fault?

    It's always the rapists fault completely. If rapists didn't exist, rape wouldn't occur... Even if toddlers were roaming 30km from home unsupervised! Given that, it's pretty clear it's solely the fault of the rapist.

    A person should not have to alter their life or live in a particular way due to the potential for rape. That is not a way to live.
    I don't dispute that but the point I am trying to make is NO, no one should have to live in fear or alter their lives, but crime is a FACT of life an in the rise and its stupid to not take reasonable precautions! It's not about blame! It's just common sense. Life is not all rainbows and fairies where everyone loves each other. People hurt other people and that won't change. Being stubborn won't keep a person safe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyMummy View Post
    A person should not have to alter their life or live in a particular way due to the potential for rape. That is not a way to live.
    Really? A parent shouldn't have to supervise their children in order for them to be safe? What world are you living in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureMa View Post
    I'm not blaming the victims. I'm saying their parents should take some responsibility for not supervising them.

    My response would be the same if a toddler got electrocuted, hit by a car or drowned. Where was the parent? This is why we supervise our children at all times. So bad things don't have a chance to happen.
    OMG I have never heard a more ridiculous statement in my life.

    Bad things happen. No matter how well you supervise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureMa View Post
    I'm sorry but this is not the same thing as an adult woman being raped.

    These were small children (one a toddler!) who rely on the care and supervision of their parents in order to remain safe. They were not supervised by their parents which is why it happened.
    No it happened because there was a predator who assaulted them.

    Awful things happen because awful people perpetrate them.

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    You're right. We should avoid putting our children in situations where there is a risk of being sexually assaulted.

    Given children are most likely to be assaulted by a friend or relative I'm going to stop visiting friends and relatives.

    I'm also going to kick my husband out given he is the one most likely to rape me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureMa View Post
    I'm not blaming the victims. I'm saying their parents should take some responsibility for not supervising them.
    You can say your not blaming them all you like but by saying they need to take responsibility IS placing blame on them.

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    100% the disgusting man is entirely to blame! However, don't give these opportunists the CHANCE to do it. We have to be on-guard ALL THE TIME! I'd let my child wee on the grass before I sent my children alone into a toilet block... In saying that there's every chance the 6 year old decided this on her own. Yes we always must have an eye on our kids, and other kids too for that matter, but that DOES NOT take away ANY blame from him and onto the parents.
    They would be blaming and beating themselves up enough.
    Here's to hoping he is captured soon, and locked away.... We all know he won't serve long though and will be free to commit again.

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    2 little girls were sexually assaulted walking to the library in the stairwell at their primary school at Haberfield last year in Sydney - who do we blame for that - teachers? parents ? The principal ?

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