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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureMa View Post
    The parents definitely need to take some responsibility here.
    So by that same logic if you were ever raped in a park toilet it's all your fault, you need to take some responsibility here!

    NO NO NO NO this is rape shaming all over again. There is NO ONE ELSE to blame but the sicko who did it.

    NO ONE ELSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJones&Me View Post
    So by that same logic if you were ever raped in a park toilet it's all your fault, you need to take some responsibility here!

    NO NO NO NO this is rape shaming all over again. There is NO ONE ELSE to blame but the sicko who did it.

    NO ONE ELSE.
    100% agree with this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJones&Me View Post
    So by that same logic if you were ever raped in a park toilet it's all your fault, you need to take some responsibility here!

    NO NO NO NO this is rape shaming all over again. There is NO ONE ELSE to blame but the sicko who did it.

    NO ONE ELSE.
    I'm sorry but this is not the same thing as an adult woman being raped.

    These were small children (one a toddler!) who rely on the care and supervision of their parents in order to remain safe. They were not supervised by their parents which is why it happened.

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    The parents were having a picnic less than 30m away. It was school holidays and the park was full of families and children. I can understand how the family may have felt it safe enough to let their guard down. No way I blame the parents.... I remember once taking both my kids (3 & 4yrs) to the park in Brisbane and actively supervising them when suddenly I lost sight of my eldest. I was franticly running around crying and panicking when suddenly he reappeared and told me he'd just gone to the toilet (40m away). Now my children are always well supervised (I was actually standing in the playground itself and physically helping them across monkey bars, down slides etc). My children are also never allowed to go to public toilets alone (and I've made this very clear to them on a number of occasions as often as I've told them never to go near roads etc) and yet my fiercely independent 4 and a half yr old took himself off to a public toilet under my watchful eye in a packed park. It COULD of been disastrous. I feel so badly for the parents.

    What a scum bag... It's just horrific

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureMa View Post
    I'm sorry but this is not the same thing as an adult woman being raped.

    These were small children (one a toddler!) who rely on the care and supervision of their parents in order to remain safe. They were not supervised by their parents which is why it happened.
    No. It happened because this horrible man assulted them.

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    I can't believe the judgements on the parents. Can you imagine how bad these parents probably already feel?
    I cannot fathom how even 1% is their fault. They were in the park. . in sight of the toilet block. They sent their 2 children in there, I imagine thinking that they could see the toilets and probably didn't think for a second that there could be a horrible disgusting person in the toilet just waiting for an opportunity.

    The blame for this is entirely on the person who perpetrated the crime.

    That poor family, those poor girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peanutmonkey View Post
    No. It happened because this horrible man assulted them.

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    He wouldn't have had a chance if they were supervised. It's pretty simple.

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    Say a woman gets raped -
    "Well she shouldnt have been walking alone at night"
    "Well she shouldnt have been wearing provocative clothing"
    "Well she shouldnt have been drunk"

    All ot these statements assume that a man is incapable of not assulting a woman because of their proximity, their clothing, their state at the time - its time to put the blame on the attacker. While society continue to victim blame, these animals will be given excuses for why they do what they do. Take the excuses away. Stop victim blaming. Of all sorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureMa View Post
    He wouldn't have had a chance if they were supervised. It's pretty simple.
    Actually, no its not. Victim blaming is a huge problem.

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    It is pretty absurd to place some of the blame of a rape on the victim. Why is it in any way the victims fault?

    It's always the rapists fault completely. If rapists didn't exist, rape wouldn't occur... Even if toddlers were roaming 30km from home unsupervised! Given that, it's pretty clear it's solely the fault of the rapist.

    A person should not have to alter their life or live in a particular way due to the potential for rape. That is not a way to live.

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