I consider my kids to be good sleepers - but they never sleep past 6am. If its 4:59am it I'm not happy but anything after 5:01am I'll accept how's that for logic?!?
We've adjusted as a family and kids in bed by 6/6:30pm and we usually in bed by 9:30/10pm. Gone are the days watching DVDs till midnight. BUT means we are up and at em and make the most of the day.
I've spent wayyy too many hours and lots of wasted tears trying to get them to sleep in...if they actually did I'm sure I'd be awake anyway!