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    And another interesting infographic here:

    http://www.climatecouncil.org.au/201.../offthecharts/

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    I love all the pretty graphs, more graphs I say! The trajectory of the entire planets future can fit on a graph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    I love all the pretty graphs, more graphs I say! The trajectory of the entire planets future can fit on a graph.
    Ask, and ye shall receive.

    Here is the latest global temperatures with the Dec 2013 update.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    I love all the pretty graphs, more graphs I say! The trajectory of the entire planets future can fit on a graph.
    ImageUploadedByThe Bub Hub1389165807.022023.jpg

    Here ya go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    Attachment 48879

    Here ya go!
    Well what do ya know? Or I should say what do the experts know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    Well what do ya know? Or I should say what do the experts know
    I'm sure one will pop in and tell us

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    Interesting article from emeritus professor Garth Paltridge, who used to be the chief research scientist at the CSIRO's division of atmospheric research.

    A snippet:

    In the light of all this, we have at least to consider the possibility that the scientific establishment behind the global warming issue has been drawn into the trap of seriously overstating the climate problem—or, what is much the same thing, of seriously understating the uncertainties associated with the climate problem—in its effort to promote the cause. It is a particularly nasty trap in the context of science, because it risks destroying, perhaps for centuries to come, the unique and hard-won reputation for honesty which is the basis of society’s respect for scientific endeavour. Trading reputational capital for short-term political gain isn’t the most sensible way of going about things.
    https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/201...limate-change/

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    Originally Posted by JohnC

    There is new research being published pretty much every week. From today you might consider this report.
    Nowhere in that article does it suggest that global warming is accelerating. It does talk about some changes in Greenland.
    If I were to say that the increase in ice in Antarctica (which is true) showed that global cooling was accelerating - I would be misrepresenting the facts.

    Originally Posted by JohnC
    Since you are apparently so interested in good science on this topic, I presume you subscibe to leading journals such as Nature Climate Change, which incidentally also has a very interesting feature on the some of apparent contradictions in the data on global surface temperatures.



    That article received quite widespread publicity. So trade winds have caused cooling. Does that mean that trade winds can also cause warming? What is driving the trade winds? The answer is they do not know.

    England also says the following in that paper:
    - the world might only warm by 2.1 degrees C this century (which is well below the original predictions)
    - there has been a pause in warming that 95% of models did not predict.

    But I guess you won't believe England on those statements because they are in line with what skeptics have been saying. ie. the models are wrong and they exaggerate the warming.

    Do you trust England with those comments?

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