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    I consider drug free to be no medical pain relief at all. That includes gas.

    I'm not sure what to call my second birth. I had no pain relief but I did have a shot of antibiotics when I arrived at hospital. If people ask I do say it was drug free.

    I don't like to use terms like natural birth, I've had one induction and one spontaneous.

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    what would no drugs to deliver child but placenta needs drugs for be?

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    I consider gas a drug too.

    Natural to me means drug free vaginal delivery....

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    It means nothing used for me. No gas. Nothing.

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    I would say drug-free is gas-free.

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    I think drug free relates to having no medical pain releif. I'd include gas as a drug.

    Antibiotics are given in relation to an infection and not to ease pain. So I'd probably still classify your labour as drug free.



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    I don't see how a vaginal birth with drugs and/or intervention of any kind is a "natural birth"? How is that more "natural" than a c-section? Sure, the baby came out vaginally but it needed help to do so.

    I really, really dislike the term "natural birth". Maybe it could be used for completely drug free and intervention free births, but of all my friends/family I have yet to hear of ANY births that could be described this way (e.g all the vaginal births had at least the injection to bring on the delivery of the placenta). And how far do you go - if use the TENS machine for pain relief, is that natural? It's not a drug, but it's still assistance.

    Personally I think the term "natural birth" just creates more competition in the birthing process, which is just awful and leads a lot of women (including a lot of very dear friends) to feel like they or their bodies somehow failed. This also goes for the "drug free" concept - if you delivered your baby just having gas WELL DONE! That is an incredible accomplishment. You should feel proud.

    BTW I wanted a drug free vaginal labour and had to have a c-section for medical reasons. I am still super proud of my body - it made and carried to term a beautiful, healthy baby. I think that is just awesome - no matter how I delivered.

    Rant over. I'll get off my soapbox now...

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    *warning TMI*

    I think some people prefer the term natural because they are uncomfortable with the term vaginal especially when the conversation of birth comes up around people you don't feel all that comfortable with describing how your vagina was stretched to breaking point and how many stitches you may or may not have had, or how the Dr/midwife had to shove his/her hand up there for some particular reason. In dd1 case it was because the cord become wrapped around her neck. In dd2 case, it was because i had to have manual removal of placenta. And I prefer people I barely know, and those I do know such as parents/grandparents etc, not to be picturing my stretched out, bloody, gaping vagina.

    For me that is why I prefer to describe it as a natural birth as opposed to a vaginal birth or a Caesarian birth.


    ETA for what its worth there isn't anything natural about being in so much pain you feel like you are being split in 2 while your body does things you never thought it was capable of and at the time almost wish it wasn't.
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    I know a few people that say they had drug free labour and used gas.
    Id say drug free labour means getting absolutely nothing for pain relief including gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollypolly View Post
    I don't see how a vaginal birth with drugs and/or intervention of any kind is a "natural birth"? How is that more "natural" than a c-section? Sure, the baby came out vaginally but it needed help to do so.

    I really, really dislike the term "natural birth". Maybe it could be used for completely drug free and intervention free births, but of all my friends/family I have yet to hear of ANY births that could be described this way (e.g all the vaginal births had at least the injection to bring on the delivery of placenta
    My first birth was induction with pethidine, my second was a natural birth, no interventions/drugs and no injection for placenta delivery. I've also had an emergency c-section for my third and they are worlds apart! No comparison. My second birth was by far the most natural to me.


 

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