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    I consider gas a drug also.

    I had gas, peth and epidural with DS1
    Epidural with DS2 and finally drug free with DS3, not by choice! I was halfway through them placing the epidural when he came out, in a hurry.

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    so what is classed as a natural birth? to me is a vaginal birth but I know some say its no drugs... just curious

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    I agree with above.

    Dd1 I had an epidural (not by choice).
    Dd2 I but on the mouth piece of the gas but the machine wasn't turned on at all
    Dd3 was in too much of a hurry to do anything.

    So dd2 and 3 were both completely drug free births.

    Eta- I say a natural birth is the same as a drug free one. It doesn't feel right to me personally saying natural is the same as vaginal, to me it feels like its taking away something for those who have c/s.

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    I worked in a medical profession and we never used the term 'natural birth/delivery' because it is such a subjective term. To some it means vaginal, to other people it means drug free (and as the OP has perhaps pointed out, some people might not be classing gas as a drug?)

    We would say "....born at x weeks gestation via vaginal/c-s delivery with x,y,z (drugs) administered during labour..."

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    Gas = nitrous oxide = a drug. So, no, you can't say 'drug free labour' if you had gas

    When I say that my labours were drug free, I mean exactly that, they were free from drugs. Any drugs.

    Edit - to me, natural means vaginal. Because a vaginal birth is natural. A c-section is not natural (that's not to say it's bad or wrong, it just is what it is. No offence intended). You can have a natural drug free birth, or a natural birth where pain relief was used. But I understand these terms are usually rather subjective to the person.
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    I'd say it meant no gas too, but that said I thought the gas was terrible. It did nothing and made me want to throw up. Everything else they gave me did nothing either until the Epi which was bliss .
    This time we are having a c section, but if we weren't I'd go an epi again in a heartbeat [I've never cared about having a drug free birth either though ].

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    I consider gas a drug, if the labour is induced its not drug free (cos induction usually involves drugs), a managed 3rd stage (injection to help the placenta come quickly) is also not a drug free labour.

    A natural labour is a physiological labour - no induction, no drugs, membranes not broken artificially, mum allowed to move as she needs to, vaginal birth, physiological 3rd stage.

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    Drug free is having absolutely nothing. Not even gas.

    A natural birth to me is a vaginal delivery.

    A natural drug free birth to me is a vaginal delivery with no drugs of any kind.


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    A natural birth to me is a drug free vaginal birth. I had vaginal births but I wouldn't say they were 'natural'.

    Its interesting hearing others definitions

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    Actually, I change my definition. I would say a natural birth would be a vaginal delivery with no intervention.

    As I wouldn't consider episiotomies or forceps deliveries to be natural as such. I can imagine that would be scary for the mother and not quite a natural experience.


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