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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    With respect, that's not your place to tell others what they should or shouldn't shield their kids from. I would be furious if one of my children told a child that attends church that god isn't real... which I firmly believe to be true. That isn't their place to be saying that.
    But why can't one child tell another child that they don't believe in God or Allah, or Buddah, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Father Christmas? Surely kids can accept and respect difference? Maybe I'm just being dense, but I don't understand the harm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    With respect, that's not your place to tell others what they should or shouldn't shield their kids from. I would be furious if one of my children told a child that attends church that god isn't real... which I firmly believe to be true. That isn't their place to be saying that.
    In a world of free speech - we must censor the children?


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    Quote Originally Posted by misskittyfantastico View Post
    But why can't one child tell another child that they don't believe in God or Allah, or Buddah, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Father Christmas? Surely kids can accept and respect difference? Maybe I'm just being dense, but I don't understand the harm?
    There's a difference between saying that you don't believe in something as opposed to saying that they're not real or don't exist.

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    I think there's a difference between saying I don't think god exists. I don't think santa exists and saying santa isn't real, or god isn't real. When you deal in absolutes, there leaves no room to accept and respect difference. Also, children in primary school are very literal. As adults we understand the concept of opinion vs fact. Many kids don't. When a child hears "santa isn't real", they probably aren't going to consider the notion of differing viewpoints, that it could be just an opinion. They hear santa isn't real and they take that on face value.

    I'm not sure I've explained that well enough for it to make sense lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveInTheBed View Post
    In a world of free speech - we must censor the children?

    Would you want an adult or child telling your child God definitely exists? That is free speech too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Would you want an adult or child telling your child God definitely exists? That is free speech too.
    They do all the time!

    It leads to a conversation with my children.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wannawannabe View Post
    There's a difference between saying that you don't believe in something as opposed to saying that they're not real or don't exist.
    Yeah, you're right. I think that's why we've always focussed on different beliefs, like my DD and DS1 are really good friends with a Christian family who don't do Santa, the tree etc... and it's just not an issue. My bestie growing up was Muslim and they didn't celebrate Christmas and I just don't remember it being a problem or some sort of crushing revelation. I dunno, I'm not trying to be insensitive - I don't have the good wordy thing tonight.

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    I don't want make a big "thing", but I am a little surprised that so many of you think that it's fine to ask a stranger to tell her child not to say something in public just because they don't agree or have the same belief? I get that another child within earshot could possibly overhear, but that's life- it's diverse, people have different opinions and I don't think we really have the right to ask someone to censor themselves to cater to the public.
    I think that kids at school would go around saying stuff like "Santa is fake" all the time. And you can't control that...
    If my child overheard another in public singing about Santa not being real and my child was upset by that, I would simply explain that that was just their opinion, that some people don't believe in certain things etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveInTheBed View Post
    They do all the time!

    It leads to a conversation with my children.




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    Ahhh yes, but it angers you, right? you are angry that public schools bring in people that tell your kids god is real. I see this as very similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannawannabe View Post
    There's a difference between saying that you don't believe in something as opposed to saying that they're not real or don't exist.
    Yes this! I tell my kids that not everyone 'does' Santa, I also tell them that nanny goes to church because she believes in God, I don't say 'we don't go to church because we don't believe in God' if they ask why we don't go to church I'll say not everyone goes to church and we don't because mummy and daddy don't believe God created the earth. Not that God isn't real! Just like when DS asks me what marriage is, I don't say marriage is a made up thing that other people like to do but it's not a real way to make a family just because *i* don't believe in marriage. I say marriage is a way some people start a family when they love each other but not everybody and not mummy and daddy. There's no need to tell kids what is and isn't real, you don't need to pass on those judgements.

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