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    Quote Originally Posted by dee1 View Post
    I can't wrap my head around the fact that people are so wound up on the fact that Santa is a lie... Like it's going to teach our kids that lying is okay.

    I can't wrap my head around why people are getting so wound up others *choose* to tell that lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I can't wrap my head around why people are getting so wound up others *choose* to tell that lie.
    I haven't noticed even one post implying this? Have I missed something?

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    I'm one of the biggest Santa loving Christmas people you will meet but in no way would overhearing OP,s DS singing bother me or make me fearful my sons childhood is ruined ?
    The only time I would ever approach another mother about her child's behaviour is if it was gong to do something dangerous or going to physically harm them or someone else - sometimes you overhear things you don't like but that's not my place to tell people how to parent their children

    Do those who think every citizen should keep up a charade they don't believe in also shield their children from Muslim/Jewish celebrations and synagogues/ mosques because they don't fit into the way you raise your children? I doubt it

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    No but she was hinted that she supports the 'real' meaning of xmas which is a religious one...
    and you have the right to vocalise your opinion on that religious meaning... Just as her son has the right to vocalise his opinion on Santa.



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    Thought I would point out that the question of the thread is probably what has caused this to descend into chaos. Asking if your child was being rude may not have been the right approach if you fundamentally believe (and for good reason) that he wasn't doing anything wrong.

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    For what it's worth... and this may be going terribly off topic, but it's been mentioned before... we are Christians and we are obviously aware that not everyone shares our beliefs. We know there will be times when our children are told things such as 'God isn't real' etc.

    If you believe something to be true though, it doesn't really matter what other people think iykwim?

    On the other hand we have taught our children to be respectful of people that believe differently to us, and sometimes it's best to not say anything at all.

    I will never silence them from talking to one another about God, even if we are in public and people might overhear them.

    I have no idea if that makes any sense whatsoever!! I guess what we are trying to teach our children is respect and discretion. They have the respect pretty down pat, but the discretion is obviously harder to learn. Heck, even us adults have trouble with it at times.

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    I love how people jump up and down at the thought of Halloween and Americanism coming to Australia but then are fine with a Coca Cola commercial representing Christmas. I am truly baffled.

    Don't worry anewme - your son did nothing more than speak the absolute truth. There is nothing to be ashamed of, he did nothing wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    Actually lots of people have said he was rude. It was also implied that i was a bad parent because he said it.

    As for the consumerism, I was referring to the man in the red suit that historical was made up by coke. I have also said we know/talk about the story behind St nick etc...

    Del maybe I should have worded better.

    AS for "I think people are more getting annoyed by a bit of a self righteous air." That is exactly how i feel. Why is your kids feelings more important than comforting my frighten child.

    NOW if my child went up to another child and told santa isn't real and I backed him up Than that would argument would stand up. But he didn't and never would. He was being kind to his brother. We have taught I our kids to be tollerant of other beliefs.

    I am ****ed off that some people think it alright to tell my child that he should not be able to believe what he wants. I guess That is reserved only for people who believe in santa.

    That he should be punished for telling the truth is well disgusting to say the least.



    I don't tell everyone that says to him santa is real to stop lying to my child. We just say merry Christmas and leave it at that. There is no reason to burst there bubble on purpose.

    So yes I am leaving this thread now as i am going out to do a full day of christmas shopping and than attending my child christmas play and concert. Wearing our santa hats.

    I AM NOT ANTI SANTA - I am against rude so and so yelling at my kid for comforting his brother and telling the truth.

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    So it's ok to pretend and keep up the charade about santa in public and literally be saturated by the "story" everywhere you turn, but it isn't ok to speak the truth about him? I don't know, I love Christmas and Santa and decorations and carols as much as the next person - but it is the double standards that are annoying me about this.

    I think this may be the first time I've ever disagreed with you and Del, it was bound to happen at some stage - I'm glad its only about santa

    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    Of course it's ok to believe what you want. It's not always ok to say it in public. This applies to many, many things, and this is no different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    So it's ok to pretend and keep up the charade about santa in public and literally be saturated by the "story" everywhere you turn, but it isn't ok to speak the truth about him? I don't know, I love Christmas and Santa and decorations and carols as much as the next person - but it is the double standards that are annoying me about this.

    I think this may be the first time I've ever disagreed with you and Del, it was bound to happen at some stage - I'm glad its only about santa<img src="images/smilies/laughing.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Laughing" smilieid="88" class="inlineimg"
    I was thinking how surprised I was earlier that we disagreed on this one @beebs! But yeah, we do

    I'm glad we aren't really falling out over Santa though. It would make him very sad

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    Don't worry, I am a Christmas nut, I love the whole thing. Picking out the tree, ,decorating, getting the kids to write santa notes. But my parents told me early, really early that Santa in the form we know him doesn't exist (very against American consumerism they were). And it didn't dampen my love for Christmas at all. I love it and I love the story of Saint Nick, which I tell my kids about (although they still believe in the "real" santa at this point). I wouldn't be upset if they didn't though, or if they overheard someone saying it wasn't true ya know?


    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I was thinking how surprised I was earlier that we disagreed on this one @beebs! But yeah, we do

    I'm glad we aren't really falling out over Santa though. It would make him very sad

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