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    Hi all,

    Angelmama - good luck for your transfer. Sending you lots of good vibes for the transfer and beyond

    January - hope you get good news about your donor and your cycle details

    Blinky and Emski - three weeks til departure now, hope the lead up is stress free for us all, Em, hopefully you're AF situation will be resolved quickly and happily

    Regarding the cost of Nurture - we are using a donor from this company after going with EDSA the first time round. I followed the excellent advice of Sooty of highlighting the huge discrepancy between them and the others and we were also successful in getting a very hefty discount, so please give it a try and good luck.

    xxF

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    Hi Plimpy, I don't have a natural cycle as I've gone through menopause. As I've never had a chance to try with my own eggs I have no idea how my body will respond with the whole cycling thing. But as you say, we will just go into it and see how it goes then investigate from there. Kinda scary when you are investing so much time and money into the unknown.

    I have a wonderful RE here who said he will help me out any way he can throughout the whole journey so that's a bit of a relief.

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    Esperanza – please don’t fret too much. Immune testing is very controversial, and I only found out what I know from hours & hours of research. A lot of doctors don’t believe in it, so it is a fairly constant uphill battle to find a FS that will look into it in the first place. I’ve been through 4 years of IVF with no luck at all & only back in August last year did I ask for a uterine biopsy for NK Cells, there are blood tests as well. (You can Google it and find out more, but if you are going soon, it would probably add more stress to be honest, as you may not have much time to try and treat, I’m not sure when you are going?) – mine came back high, but my FS that I was seeing then, said there was no need to worry. When I sought another opinion, I was told there would be no point in trying IVF without treatment. A lot of FS’s do tend to use the “Bondi Protocol” which Gavin Sacks started in Sydney. Its fairly stock standard treatment, of clexane, low dose presidone & I think sometimes antibiotics). There is a NK Cell (Natural Killer Cell) thread on Bubhub – full to the brim of information. I’m only sharing this with you, as I felt rude not to share my situation after reading your post. There so much to learn in the IVF world. I'm still learning & I feel quite uneducated compared to some!

    With your treatment, I think they can pretty much do anything these days with overriding your natural system to create a lining, stop ovulation, & create a baby – well that’s my theory. Gosh, science is amazing – who would have thought 20 years ago that now we would be getting 50 year old women pregnant.
    You are in good hands. CFC do this all the time. I remember reading their treatment plan the first time (the overview of meds to take) & I felt reassured from how well laid out it was & it was obvious they know what they are doing. A big chunk of their business is egg donors. When you get there, I was surprised (I think I was been naïve) to see a room full of couples from all over Africa & obviously a few from other parts of the world – a lot travel there.


    Angel – how is it going over there, what’s happening? I don’t know who else has used PICSI?… I only found out about it recently, by chatting to someone that had been to Europe and that clinic offered it, hence I asked CFC if they did it. I don’t think they advertise it anywhere from memory? My understanding is it is like HA-ICSI which we did use once when we were with Monash IVF. The concept sounds great to me, and at that fee I think we’ve got nothing to lose. My DH’s sperm are very poor too. 100% antibodies (means the sperm cant penetrate the egg naturally) very low motility and morphology. PICSI is meant to help, having said that when talking to the lab at Monash after a failed cycle and I asked how the HA-ICSI went, unfortunately for us, DH’s sperm didn’t bind to anything – of course I freaked out….. they did say there are so many variables & weren’t necessarily really worried about what happened, even though I was very upset… once again its not a sure thing L Here’s a link for PICSI -
    http://www.cityfertility.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/IVF-Treatment-PICSI.pdf

    So did you just show CFC your semen report and they accepted that for choosing to use donor sperm, rather than getting a physiological report? They’ve seen both reports of ours, July 2103 & Feb 2014 – and still think it is ok, which surprises me, as DH’s sperm is not good at all. I’ve just got to trust that it’s going to work this time, as we have frozen sperm from November and have chosen to use that this time to save $2,000 ish on air fares. Big call, I know – but have asked a few specialists & they said “we’ve made babies from worst sperm than that” – ****e, I didn’t think it could get any worse!

    Thx for the info on the daily injection. There is also a good place in the UK that ships very cheap… I’ve just found out I think it will be under $300 for the depot injection, including shipping. I’m waiting on confirmation, as I have to get cracking and get it. Last time I paid near $1500 for it from Sydney! For those interested www.fertility2u.co.uk all you need is a script – have a look at their website, very professional and other girls have used them.

    Good luck Angel – I’m thinking of you, I really feel for you, as I know what it’s like and its one of the reasons I keep popping back in here, to see how your going
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    Sooty - the daily injection has to stay cold. For the difference in price, you might be better sourcing it locally just so you know that it has been in the right environment consistently?

    Unfortunately, just as with the Syneral, the daily injection gives you headaches too. I had the most severe migraine I have ever experienced in my life taking the daily injection, so bad that I had to go to my GP and get a shot of morphine. I also needed to order a second vial, and my local pharmacy helped me out with additional very small needles required for the dose. But for all the pain and suffering, it was worth it and I consider a very small price to pay.

    Good luck ladies - lots happening in here at the moment. I'm really hoping that all of you receive the outcomes you are hoping for.

    Angel - special mentions to you and lots of good luck and positive energy for your transfer. I pray that your embies have been thriving and that the continue to do so within you.

    RBxx

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    Hi ladies, I used the international pharmacy when I went to Cape Town and my depot injection was around $700, however when I went for my cycle in the Czech Republic they used an international pharmacy called fertility2u and for my depot injection and progynova it was just under $300. It's worth checking out

    January, hope your donor gets her appointment made so things can move along

    Hi Sooty

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    Angel, we have had two cycles with poor embryo development, although the last cycle we had one expanding grade 1 blast to put back. Disappointing so this time we're looking at DH's sperm before we go back

    As for PICSI we were going to use it and the way it was explained to us was that the best sperm meaning motility, morphology and DNA would go to the little dot of gel. The sperm with poor motility,morphology and DNA would not go to the gel kind of like natural selection in a dish so the strongest will stick to the gel. I regret not trying PICSI in our cycle but we live and learn

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    My husband needed to have tesa to get the sperm and maybe that's why it wasn't a issue because they needed to surgically remove sperm. I wonder if you still have sperm in ejaculate they think it's ok because they are using icsi.

    I thought it was well worth using picsi as just an extra measure even tho some
    studies says it's not proven yet.

    I am so nervous for today and can't sleep. I am having visions of getting there and nothing to transfer.

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    Angelmama.... good luck for your transfer. Hope you got there and it was all good for transfer. Thinking of you xx

    AFM... just had EPU this morning. Got 2 eggs, of which just 1 was mature and was injected. They will phone again in the morning to say if it fertilises overnight. As much as I would love it to work, history says not to get excited, and I'm so ready for it to work - that I'm almost looking forward to moving onto DE and getting a better chance that what I've had with my OE.

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    Good luck Angelmama - keep us posted!
    Bertie I was the same way on my last cycle, so totally get where you're coming from. I have my fingers crossed for your embie ...
    AFM - AF never returned so I went for my blood test this morning first thing - have just sent the results to CFC and hope I hear back quickly

    Em x

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    Sooty- do you know what the success rate is for women with immune issue on treatment? How common is it?

    Angelmama- good luck.

    plimpy


 

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