Simpson - thanks for the info on Sharkeys, you have a point, I may save my $ for now with everything else and ED.
With the endo, my family keep saying that to me, but I wouldnt even know I have I except for FS finding 2-3 years ago, and apparently outside of the uterus too near the bowel. She left it alone as that was too risky to remove, but removed as much in the uterus that she could. How would I know if I should be having it looked at again? With the amount of money we are spending on immune treatment and travelling o/s again, I wonder if I should get it looked at again? Is the only way, by laparoscopy?
no you don't have to fast. I just got a call too from Bronwyn and it's sad I know this but she puts the iv in and she's really good at it. I have "difficult veins" too small apparently even though I am almost 6ft tall!! And the last time I was in they had to get her specially in as the other gut couldn't get it. Anyway she's the one on tomorrow and there's honestly nothing else to the procedure, just sitting around.
also Gywneath mentioned that there's a shortage of rooms tomorrow so it's downstairs not upstairs where it usually is. Anyway I am sure I will see u tomorrow and don't worry it's honestly fine.
Pihu- no you don't have to fast before intralipids. They'll actually give you afternoon tea not long after you arrive. No need to be nervous, its very simple and painless.
Sooty- laparoscopy is the best way to determine the presence of endo and the severity of it. Really severe cases can be visible on ultrasound, but mild to moderate cases can't be seen that way. I never had any symptoms at all, yet I had quite a lot of it and FS said definitely bad enough to have contributed to my IVF failures. You should raise the issue with your FS & see what they say. Before I had immune treatment, the only time I got a BFP was straight after my lap once the endo had been removed. Sadly was a chem preg but it showed that the surgery made a difference.
Just a note to the girls going into hurstville tomorrow, if you are downstairs make sure they follow the correct procedure as per upstairs. I was downstairs once and they weren't going to run the right amount of Hartmanns though after the intralipids and they also were going to take the bottle off when there was still 20-30 ml left. I argued with them and although they didn't believe me, called upstairs and I was right 😡 they just don't really know the procedure as well down there. I think I posted on here at the time, maybe in the previous thread
Hey girls! welcome to the newbies! Nidhulaine, oh man I feel for you working extra for all this, hope the scratch goes gently and I REALLY hope you get knocked up this month !!!
Sooty, I would do a DIY detox and save your precious dollars, are you on dex at the moment or off it for now? those reactions sound bad, I didn't get that... make sure you look after your liver to process everything and get it out of your system... warm water with fresh lemon juice twice a day is great and get some St Mary's Thistle liver supplement to help protect and support your liver, google it all first re taking it with dex, etc if you can. Tumeric is good to have in it as well... I take NFM brand detoxification formula which is by fertility guru Francesca Naish (Jocelyn Centre in Sydney)
It's a really good one and Dr Earth in Bondi Junction, Sydney stocks it for $30... they will post it to you. Highly recommend it. I reckon get the endo checked out while you can too... I think I might do the same. I also read about the "salt water flush" the other day which I am going to do! but maybe don't do it when on dex as dex messes with your salts and drinking salt wouldn't be a good idea then I reckon
Good luck with the intralipids tomorrow girls, I had mine downstairs last Saturday and it was fine and it was because upstairs was closed, not too full! being Xmas and all there was no one there, had a room to myself... G does talk some nonsense sometimes I reckon, anyway... also if they want you to pay an excess to the hospital and stay overnight etc you should challenge it, I did and they backed off and I didn't pay it - I thought no way am I paying almost a grand for a freaking infusion of soy and egg!!!! and your health fund pays the hospital for the bed anyway so it didn't make any legal sense to me and they backed down... maybe they don't ask for it anymore since I did that in November, I don't know, they certainly didn't ask me this time anyway. I'm grateful they do it but I think the fees for it are completely unreasonable. Dr Benny at Next Generation does intralipids for $350 on a Friday but I couldn't get my FS to write a referral for Dr Benny to do it (which is what Dr B required) as my FS said it was all the latest internet hype and he wouldn't recommend it for me so I didn't even ask him, chickened out. Should force my clinic to do it like someone else did recently, I'm sure it would be free! So annoying. Anyway rant over, should just happy we are able to get the bloody stuff in Sydney I suppose seeing as Australian specialists have such a problem with it, ridiculous!!! over and out
Hi everyone and happy new year. I found one of the old threads and posted but think it may have closed now so relieved to find this current thread. (Sooty - thanks for your reply. Pleased to catch up on your progress in this thread and let me know what your US spec says)
sorry for the long winded story:
I'm almost 38, DH 52 (vasectomy reversed Oct 13 but no sperm found yet). After IVF4 failed in Oct and seeing these threads, I switched FS at Genea to one who can help with DH issue as he needs TESA for ICSI to try with fresh sperm (all previous frozen TESE sperm used) and also booked in to see Dr M on 17 Dec who ordered some blood tests. my FS also did an endo biopsy to check for NKs on day 14 of my cycle when I ovulated I guess and said my results were normal.
from research and reading this thread, is that the wrong time to do the biopsy? I've seen in Dr Beer's book he recommends post-ovulation around day 26....as levels can change significantly during the cycle. Anyone have any idea?
i haven't been able to get hold of G or Dr M to find out blood test results. I have started ivf5 on provera/lucrin protocol. Last 4 cycles were short antagonist. Not sure how I'll go on this suppressed one but I got mixed up with pharmacist saying 20IU of Lucrin vs 10IU prescribed so mucked that up for first week, My FS says shouldn't make a difference now on correct dose. Started GonalF 2 days ago. I'm overseas so get into Sydney on Monday morning to go straight into Genea for bloods/scan. Fingers crossed I'm not over suppressed. Been feeling pretty flat and depressed with no appetite.
As I haven't been able to get Dr M results have no idea if I have immune issues but last 2 cycles I felt like something wrong was going on. Or think am jus going crazy . After last embryo transfer in Oct, I got AF 4 days earlier than preg test so got tested locally overseas. They also did some screening and said I had negative blocking antibodies which was causing implantation failure. Anyone have this? They said LIT therapy is needed. Does Dr M do this? Heard it can be risky and I'm based in china for the mo so if I do LIT here I can't even ask questions in English....
I'm really anxious about this cycle and want to throw everything at it. Have bad egg/sperm issues and who knows what else. Hence the insomnia and posting at 5am). In the US when I did my first 2 cycles they put me on 16mg prednisolone (standard for all ivfs) so I've started that now too myself on same day as GonalF. What does Dr M usually do?
and if I do have immune issues, when is too late for intralipids before egg collection?
new FS also put me on DHEA. Def noticed the greasy hair and much more falling out. Guess this is normal?
Any advice appreciated from you incredibly knowledgeable and supportive ladies! And apologies if I haven't got the format of my post right or figured out how to use those snazzy symbols. Just so grateful to have found the thread and not feel so alone and overwhelmed so thank you.
IVF ISCI #1- in US Jun 12 with PGD (18eggs/15 mat/8fert/3 blasts frozen for PGD embryo) - all 3 aneuploid
IVF ISCI #2 - in US May 13 (15eggs/14mat/6fert/1 day6 blast) -BFN
IVF ISCI #3- in Genea Syd Jul 13 (14eggs/11 mat/6fert/1 day5 morula) -BFN
IVF ISCI #4 - in Genea Syd Sep/Oct 13 (11eggs/9mat/3fert) 2 day 3 transferred - BFN. - 1 day6 frozen embie that we will save till we knw if I have immune issues.
IVF ISCI #5 - started provera 24 Dec - Lucrin 28th - gonal 9 Jan - fingers crossed!!
Kiwi76.... firstly I must say your egg numbers are absolutely fantastic - numbers I just dream about. It's getting them to transfer and then to stick!! I don't know the answers to all your questions, but in regards to Dr M, yes he does do all the different immune treatments, though I've only had intrallipids with him myself. You can have the intrallipid anytime up to EPU (Dr M does it on Saturdays), but it's timing it. I thought my EPU was going to be on a Friday, so had the intrallipd the week before on the Saturday. But my stim went a whole week longer than planned, so the intrallipid was almost two weeks before. Apparently it stays in your system up to 4 weeks, so I guess it was OK.
That's interesting that in the US they prescribe Prednisolone for all IVF treatments - that sounds a clever idea. As to doses, Dr M put me on 25 from the beginning of the cycle, and upped it to 30 from transfer. Probably different for different people. He also had me on Aspirin (10) from beginning of cycle, and Clexane jabs from transfer. Unfortunately it didn't work for me. But I'd read in Dr Beer's book (you must read this) that the success rate is about 80% over two cycles, so I will definitely try another cycle and see if I'm lucky with a second attempt. If I can get an appointment that is!! I rang G yesterday, she said she'd phone back, but didn't. By the time I remembered, they'd closed for the weekend!!
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