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    More than half the time I caught a taxi in Melbourne, I was harassed in some way. I would totally use this service.

    Men already have a male taxi service, it's called a taxi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    I don't think people are tarring anyone with the same brush. Just wanting to avoid the drivers who DO act inappropriately and dangerously. I'll ask dad his feelings but I'm sure he would be supportive of the move.
    Just repeating the example I gave above to illustrate my point iykwim:

    You are a male teacher. Another male teacher at your school abused a female student in some way. Instead of dealing with this male teacher who committed this abuse, the board of education steps in and say that male teachers are no longer allowed to teach female students, instead there will be a special team of female teachers hired for female students. They don't deal with any systemic problems with the attitudes of the male teacher or any other male teachers, they just no longer allow male teachers near female students just in case they abuse someone.

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    But sexual assault is far more common among females. 1 in 4 is the stats. Until women are seen as equal, this will always been an issue. And I am not sure it will ever change. I don't think we should stop fighting the good fight or anything, but it could take hundreds, thousands of years. Not to mention our judicial system in relation to sex crimes is an utter joke. So in the meantime. If some women feel safer in a cab driven by women, then so what? Who cares? At the end of the day I come first, I come before any male taxi driver I have never met. And I have the right to feel safe getting home, no matter how tipsy I am

    Seriously though, I can understand others not thinking it is a great idea..but to actively try and make out that it is a bad idea and that others shouldn't be doing it? Why?

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    I totally see where you're coming from @Atropos but I think it's overly optimistic and utopian. These guys aren't going to volunteer to be educated. They're not going to get into trouble for being overtly sexist or for sexually harassing women through suggestive looks or phrases. Realistically it is just not going to happen. The best option IMO is to put their operators in a position where they're losing money because women are going to a company where they will be respected. The easiest way to do that is by having female only taxi companies. I'll bet a million bucks that if it is successful the taxi operators will start looking at how to win back female passengers. To me it is just like a boycott. I don't think every employee of Evil Company X is evil, but that won't stop me buying from Ethical Free Trade Company Y instead. I'm sure there's lovely people working for Evil Company X, but my issue is with their evil colleagues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ana Gram View Post
    More than half the time I caught a taxi in Melbourne, I was harassed in some way. I would totally use this service.

    Men already have a male taxi service, it's called a taxi.
    Wow, really? So do women, it's also called a taxi!

    If *some* taxi drivers are being abusive and being inappropriate! THEY need to be weeded out. Taxi companies need to train and monitor their staff more effectively. They need to go to the root of the problem.

    I'm repeating myself and getting upset. Bowing out, enjoy your lady taxis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    Just repeating the example I gave above to illustrate my point iykwim:

    You are a male teacher. Another male teacher at your school abused a female student in some way. Instead of dealing with this male teacher who committed this abuse, the board of education steps in and say that male teachers are no longer allowed to teach female students, instead there will be a special team of female teachers hired for female students. They don't deal with any systemic problems with the attitudes of the male teacher or any other male teachers, they just no longer allow male teachers near female students just in case they abuse someone.
    If the rates of assault/harassment were as high as it is with taxi services yes they may have to do something to protect the female students in the meantime while still addressing the cultural problems with harassment and violence against women.

    I agree with PPs that male-male violence is higher, but women should not be held accountable for this. Women should be able to protect themselves and I'm not certain it's within taxis that males are attacked/harassed by drivers. It's women.

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    I also never walk alone at night, ever, under no circumstances. I hate, hate that I have to feel that way. But I do, because women alone at night are assaulted regularly. It was not that long ago that a woman was dragged from (King St, Newtown - which I would always consider safe because there are so many people around) and raped in a quiet street. This stuff happens all the time.

    Yes it need to change, yes we need to take it seriously, yes! But, that could take generations!

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    I do agree that stranger rape is less common than say, being raped by someone you know, but I must say that the times where I have felt that it could go downhill fast, have more often than not been when I've been in a taxi.

    How many times in your life, apart from in a taxi, are you likely to be alone in a confined space with a strange male without an easy escape though? Maybe it's just perceived threat... regardless it would be nice if women felt safe to take a ride home on their own half drunk at night... and nice if female taxi drivers felt safe to pick up drunk passengers and take them home too.

    Unfortunately, with society's views on women and sexual assault and such, it just doesn't feel safe being a woman alone with a man you do not know, regardless of how nice that man might be.

    I recently took a ride home with someone I didn't really know (I went to school with him, but beyond that I didn't know him), and thanked him for not being a rapist... because I was drunk and lord knows I couldn't have defended myself if he decided to attack me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    I also never walk alone at night, ever, under no circumstances. I hate, hate that I have to feel that way. But I do, because women alone at night are assaulted regularly. It was not that long ago that a woman was dragged from (King St, Newtown - which I would always consider safe because there are so many people around) and raped in a quiet street. This stuff happens all the time.

    Yes it need to change, yes we need to take it seriously, yes! But, that could take generations!
    No! I'm sorry but it actually doesn't happen all the time at all! This is the exact stereotype I was getting at. I'm not saying it never happens but it is not all that common at all. It really isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    I realise no one is calling for a ban. But how can you know this won't affect other drivers business? Women make up the biggest proportion of the clientele and this is a women only service, so many women will use this in place of regular taxi services. Of course the flow on will be other drivers lose fares and therefore, earnings.
    Well the industry would gain a customer if I could use a female only taxi. I refuse to use them as it stands.


 

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