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    Quote Originally Posted by Degrassi View Post
    This is true, but the fine still stands which I don't agree with:

    The prosecutor said irrespective of whether it was an e-cig the regulations defined the offence as including "any tobacco or any other product intended to be smoked".

    There is no smoke!
    And no tobacco either. All I can think is that he didn't identify it as an e cig at the time, he let the officer think it was a regular smoke and there is now no way of proving it wasn't.

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    Kinda makes me think it may not have been an ecig actually. There's no smoke, no smell, only vapor really when you exhale. The cop would honestly have to be an idiot to mistake an ecig for a proper cigarette, especially after getting close enough to him to chat with him about it. So seems he's trying to pull a bit of a dodge.

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    If someone managed to cop a fine for smoking an "ecig" in a non-smoking area, that I absolutely, wholeheartedly support that fine.

    Non-smoking areas, I believe, aren't just about removing the health risks of the other people in the area, it is also about setting a standard. That smoking is not okay, seeing people smoke, whether real cigarettes or an "ecig", is still giving out the impression to children and young people that smoking is a socially acceptable act.

    With so much emphasis on making smoking no longer a "popular" and "cool" thing to do and that it ISN'T socially acceptable, then no, I do not believe, that even "ecigs" should be allowed in non-smoking areas. It defeats what I see to be one of the core things in stamping out smoking - it's social association. Therefore, I fully support this fine and would love for it to be 'the norm' for ALL forms of cigarettes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillynix View Post
    If someone managed to cop a fine for smoking an "ecig" in a non-smoking area, that I absolutely, wholeheartedly support that fine.

    Non-smoking areas, I believe, aren't just about removing the health risks of the other people in the area, it is also about setting a standard. That smoking is not okay, seeing people smoke, whether real cigarettes or an "ecig", is still giving out the impression to children and young people that smoking is a socially acceptable act.

    With so much emphasis on making smoking no longer a "popular" and "cool" thing to do and that it ISN'T socially acceptable, then no, I do not believe, that even "ecigs" should be allowed in non-smoking areas. It defeats what I see to be one of the core things in stamping out smoking - it's social association. Therefore, I fully support this fine and would love for it to be 'the norm' for ALL forms of cigarettes.
    I totally agree and tried to write this same idea earlier however couldn't articulate what I was going to say - thanks for saying it better than I could :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR03 View Post
    I totally agree and tried to write this same idea earlier however couldn't articulate what I was going to say - thanks for saying it better than I could :-)
    You're most welcome, except now I'm cringing at my typos/grammatical errors. But that's what happens when you have a bazillion interruptions from the small people I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennaisme View Post
    Kinda makes me think it may not have been an ecig actually. There's no smoke, no smell, only vapor really when you exhale. The cop would honestly have to be an idiot to mistake an e cig for a proper cigarette, especially after getting close enough to him to chat with him about it. So seems he's trying to pull a bit of a dodge.

    Back in my day, ABC played Alice Cooper on the kids cartoons and our cartoons could talk. Being a kid sucks now.
    I love this e cig smell because it has lemon flavor. please give me some brand name who has menthol flavor. i eagerly wait for this taste.
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    Yes, lets punish people who are actually trying to quite smoking, who are trying to to become a health statistic. Really good move, lets punish those trying to live a better life. I don't care if he was smoking his ecig on the moon. He should not have been fined for it. It is not a real cigarette and he is obviously quitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillynix View Post
    If someone managed to cop a fine for smoking an "ecig" in a non-smoking area, that I absolutely, wholeheartedly support that fine.

    Non-smoking areas, I believe, aren't just about removing the health risks of the other people in the area, it is also about setting a standard. That smoking is not okay, seeing people smoke, whether real cigarettes or an "ecig", is still giving out the impression to children and young people that smoking is a socially acceptable act.

    With so much emphasis on making smoking no longer a "popular" and "cool" thing to do and that it ISN'T socially acceptable, then no, I do not believe, that even "ecigs" should be allowed in non-smoking areas. It defeats what I see to be one of the core things in stamping out smoking - it's social association. Therefore, I fully support this fine and would love for it to be 'the norm' for ALL forms of cigarettes.
    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Yes, lets punish people who are actually trying to quite smoking, who are trying to to become a health statistic. Really good move, lets punish those trying to live a better life. I don't care if he was smoking his ecig on the moon. He should not have been fined for it. It is not a real cigarette and he is obviously quitting.
    I agree with this. IF it was a ecig. It sounds to me as if he is trying to get out of a fie. I could be wrong but for her to issue him a fine in the mail she would have asked for his details. And surely be would have mentioned at some point while giving her those that it was a fake ciggie and he would just turn it off.

    Again, I'm sure the cop would notice if you butted it out or just put it in his pocket IYKWIM?

    If it was a real ecig good on him for trying to quit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Yes, lets punish people who are actually trying to quite smoking, who are trying to to become a health statistic. Really good move, lets punish those trying to live a better life. I don't care if he was smoking his ecig on the moon. He should not have been fined for it. It is not a real cigarette and he is obviously quitting.
    Punished? Really? If it was a real cigarette, then he wouldn't have been smoking in a non-smoking area, so why would he then, think it okay to smoke an "ecig" in a non-smoking area?

    Non-smoking areas, like I said in my OP, are not only there for the health of other people, but for setting a standard, that it is not acceptable, socially, to smoke in this area. To me, that naturally, should extend to "ecigs" as well. It doesn't matter what you are smoking, if you are doing it in a non-smoking area, then I believe a fine is acceptable.

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