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    Another thing that could be deemed creepy, is when you walk into a Catholic church and see Christ hanging from a cross and with thorns around his crown and blood coming out of his hands, feet and head. It isn't like Pagans are the only ones who have things to do with death and gore.

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    So I wasn't really going to say anything about the thread but I just have one comment to make in regards to the celebrating death statement being creepy.

    There are multiple different branches of Paganism, however all of the ones I've encountered (including the one I practice) celebrate death as much as birth. It's part of the circle of life and keeps the balance in the world. Yes it's time for sadness, it's also time for happiness as it means a spirit has entered the world to be reborn into what the Gods deem needful. Sometimes it's a time for great sadness, more so than others, but the statement that celebrating death is creepy makes me very uncomfortable. Everyone must die, the wheel keeps turning, it's just how it is.

    Furthermore, Easter(which IS a "traditional" Aussie celebration, even if it was stolen from Pagans) is also celebrating death and then the rebirth of Jesus.

    So while you may find the zombies and the ghouls and whatnot creepy, please refrain from calling the actual celebration itself and what its for creepy.

    Thats all. Enjoy your day.

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    I've edited my post to further clarify.

    I assure you I do understand how a culture changes over time, I also understand that culture changes because of saturation from America. I get that. I don't disagree with that, and I agree it isn't a good thing. I find it really bizarre when I heard teenage kids saying "OMG, whatever" and all that kind of thing, the music and pop videos and all that.

    All I am saying, is if you peel back all the commercialism and look at the origins of Halloween, it is really interesting and fascinating. It is a really interesting historic celebration. That might not be something you like to partake in, but to dismiss all of Halloween as one big money making event is really sad. This event was so important to so many people throughout history. That is all I was saying.



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    I dont watch american tv or cwlebrate halloween - thus my point. Our CULTURE is beling saturated by american media and culture, thus why things like halloween have crept in -its not about my family, but the influence on austrlaian culture. Obviously you are not quite understand how a culture is influenced and changed over time! Whether I personally accept it or not, halloween is becoming a part of Australia n culture, it has nothing to do with what tv my kids watch, but out culture and the media as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Another thing that could be deemed creepy, is when you walk into a Catholic church and see Christ hanging from a cross and with thorns around his crown and blood coming out of his hands, feet and head. It isn't like Pagans are the only ones who have things to do with death and gore.
    I took 3 year old DS to a christening a few weeks ago ( catholic) and the church and horrible statues scared the life out of him ! ( and me for that matter - there was a giant Jesus on a cross covered in red paint (blood) whose eyes kept following you!)
    I'd give him jack O lanterns and vampire teeth to dress up in any day of the week before making him sit through church again

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    Those statues really used to scare me, or worse, the bleeding heart of Mary Pictures - arrghh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    I took 3 year old DS to a christening a few weeks ago ( catholic) and the church and horrible statues scared the life out of him ! ( and me for that matter - there was a giant Jesus on a cross covered in red paint (blood) whose eyes kept following you!)
    I'd give him jack O lanterns and vampire teeth to dress up in any day of the week before making him sit through church again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    I took 3 year old DS to a christening a few weeks ago ( catholic) and the church and horrible statues scared the life out of him ! ( and me for that matter - there was a giant Jesus on a cross covered in red paint (blood) whose eyes kept following you!)
    I'd give him jack O lanterns and vampire teeth to dress up in any day of the week before making him sit through church again
    Not to mention its idolatry. The bible says not to make images out of wood or stone etc and worship them. Not to mention the cross itself was taken from the pagan god Tammuz ( t for the cross) so whether he even died on a cross is debatable. More likely it was a simple torture stake ( the bible says " tree" ) The Greek word that has been translated cross is just a "pole" or "stake"

    Anyway carry on sorry bit OT.

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    I honestly find the commercialism objection of Halloween a little strange seeing as Christmas is now arguably the most commercialised holiday of the year. Easters right up there too for commercialism.

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    I've never ever celebrated Halloween as it wasn't big in South Africa at all. Most of South Africa is Christian so many are against it.

    Now that I have DS, I like the idea of a fun night out dressing him up in a cute little costume and playing with kids his age (not necessarily trick or treating as he is too young for all those Lollies).

    This year we MIGHT partake with some friends and it would be the first year. If DS enjoys it, we may do it again, if not, we will go back to not partaking in it.

    I'm Christian myself so I wouldn't be teaching DS the background of where and why Halloween started, unless he specifically asked one day, just like people celebrate Christmas without knowing or caring about the true meaning and origin. I will be teaching him about Christmas though as that is where my beliefs lie.

    I'm quite happy to accept the 'Americanism' of Halloween just for the fun of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    Halloween has been popularised by th American portrayal of American culture In the media, and it is THAT that we see In thd shops and it is THAT americanised 'version' of Halloween that we celebrate.
    I actually disagree. If you look more closely at Halloween in the US you'll see that it has strayed far, far from it's ghoulish roots. Kids dress up as absolutely anything, the more outlandish the better. In Australia I've only ever seen people dressed up in costumes directly related to Halloween.

    However I do agree that the meaning has been lost and I think this is a real shame. Many cultures have a way of celebrating their dead; far from being gruesome or macabre it's quite a beautiful thing to do. It's a shame we don't have such traditions, I wonder if perhaps it would remove the awful stigmas and negativity our culture places on death and the dying, and make us less fearful of the inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ana Gram View Post
    I honestly find the commercialism objection of Halloween a little strange seeing as Christmas is now arguably the most commercialised holiday of the year. Easters right up there too for commercialism.
    And my understanding of costumes in America is that there's often a lot of pressure on parents to make them at home. So where exactly is this excessive "commercialism"? A few bags of lollies? A plastic spider web?


 

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