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    Well correct me if I'm wrong, but at that point the child would be at school & there would be no child care costs... So that's why being on newstart would be less than working... I think that's the whole point... They want you to work!

    Where as a working mum of young children will have child care costs & a lot of the time once you factor in child care costs, it doesn't work out that you are THAT much better off working. I guess that's why a lot of low income workers choose to stay at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieh View Post
    When does new start allowance kick in??? How old are the kids?
    I was just using that as an example. You said they can earn just as much staying at home than working, which just isn't true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieh View Post
    Well correct me if I'm wrong, but at that point the child would be at school & there would be no child care costs... So that's why being on newstart would be less than working... I think that's the whole point... They want you to work!

    Where as a working mum of young children will have child care costs & a lot of the time once you factor in child care costs, it doesn't work out that you are THAT much better off working. I guess that's why a lot of low income workers choose to stay at home.
    Do you work? Or is it only ok for you to stay at home because your husband earns good money?

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    And if I was in a low paying job that meant I was away from my kids and I could get the same money staying home with my kids, then you betcha I would choose to stay at home! I don't hold a grudge to people who choose to be with their kids and provide well for them.

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    Do we assume anybody who receives any kind of government payment can't provide for their children otherwise? I know plenty of people who get FTB, CCR or CCB, own their own home (paying off mortgage), working (one or both parents), yet keep having children. Since they receive government handouts does that mean the are 'having children they can't provide for'?

    If so, then there's an awful lot of people in Australia (the lucky country let alone the rest of the world) who should not be having more children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleetwood View Post
    Do we assume anybody who receives any kind of government payment can't provide for their children otherwise? I know plenty of people who get FTB, CCR or CCB, own their own home (paying off mortgage), working (one or both parents), yet keep having children. Since they receive government handouts does that mean the are 'having children they can't provide for'?

    If so, then there's an awful lot of people in Australia (the lucky country let alone the rest of the world) who should not be having more children.
    No. That's not an assumption I've made. I have taken this thread to be about people who solely live on government support with no other form of income.. Although I don't think it's been clarified? .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieh View Post
    Well correct me if I'm wrong, but at that point the child would be at school & there would be no child care costs... So that's why being on newstart would be less than working... I think that's the whole point... They want you to work!

    Where as a working mum of young children will have child care costs & a lot of the time once you factor in child care costs, it doesn't work out that you are THAT much better off working. I guess that's why a lot of low income workers choose to stay at home.
    Just because the kids in school doesn't mean that there are no child care costs. There is before school care, Afterschool care and vacation care. All very expensive. Also, I haven't seen too many jobs that let you work school hours and have school holidays off.

    The number of children someone has doesn't even register for me. It's none of my business

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieh View Post
    Well correct me if I'm wrong, but at that point the child would be at school & there would be no child care costs... So that's why being on newstart would be less than working... I think that's the whole point... They want you to work!

    Where as a working mum of young children will have child care costs & a lot of the time once you factor in child care costs, it doesn't work out that you are THAT much better off working. I guess that's why a lot of low income workers choose to stay at home.
    No child are costs?? Pfft only if those parents are fortunate enough to find a school hours job! And then they would only be part time anyway. Otherwise there would be before and after school care costs until around 12 when I believe most parents would feel comfortable leaving their child alone at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassieh View Post
    Well correct me if I'm wrong, but at that point the child would be at school & there would be no child care costs... So that's why being on newstart would be less than working... I think that's the whole point... They want you to work!

    Where as a working mum of young children will have child care costs & a lot of the time once you factor in child care costs, it doesn't work out that you are THAT much better off working. I guess that's why a lot of low income workers choose to stay at home.
    Mine was in school and I had to pay for before and after school care. I didn't end up much better off than when I was paying for child care so I gave fulltime work the flick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Do you work? Or is it only ok for you to stay at home because your husband earns good money?
    I don't see why you are taking what I said out of context & making it personal. You said that you would be earning more working then you would on newstart & I pointed out that you wouldn't have child care fees when you are on newstart... So your costs of working, would be less than a mum who has to put her young children in day care.


 

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